I think the 8 should be legal. Ethics, well fellows here in lies a problem because ethics is an opinion. And when we start voicing opinions well somebodys going to disagree and then they ain't gonna want to sit in the duck blind together. sad but true. Just like i'll state my opinion right here and most will say hes a idiot (oh i'll agree with that) I think its unethical to gripe about coyote and hawk killing all the game. So when Joe hunter leaves his house stops at the quick shop 4 a snack stops and buyes himself some shells at the hunting store ect. ect. ect. They are the true hunters they live buy the hunt and until i live by the hunt i will share the game with them and sometimes leave game 4 them so they have an easy meal. And yes sometimes when the turtle doves are lined up on the high line i will give them a barrel to see how many will fall, unethical i don't know i eat them. I don't do it often i guess sometimes i just fell a little onrey. ch but we are are all on the same team so we all overlook most things and stay friends right