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They are both fine field grade guns that are in mostly original and unmolested conditon. Re recoil pads on them (i cannot see the back of the 12g, but i assume) are the only non-oriignL modification. But the stock (on the 16g at least, cant tell on the 12 for sure) has not been cut, so things are easily able to be put back to proper configuration if so desired.
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