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Pete there is no has-mat fee on loaded ammo just powder and primers and percussion caps. The people at our UPS store told me that the individual Ups stores our owned by a company that has its own set of shipping rules. Very anti gun.they are not owned by UPS. This is according to the manager. You can drop four or five shells in a flat rate box and pack them si they don't roll around and they wont get a second look.
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