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Ok Charlie will do. I'm not using your hot melt method because the overshot card is recessed about 3/4" inside the hull. The circle fly wads fit so tight that compression hasn't been an issue. I'm using Duco cement. I'm hoping to get to go goose hunting Saturday and use them. I'll keep you posted. Those 2 7/8 hulls have a lot of capacity and there is a lot of potential to develop some very effective loads.