Rob, Yes I agree that it appears just as substantial as my Emmebi to me. I won't be home until Wednesday for measurements. This case was made for a 12ga/16ga with 28" barrels. I ordered it for a 16ga 28" Grulla as Jeff suggested. The Grulla has a 15" lop to the front trigger and fits well. I recommend that you call Jeff and ask him. As Chris said in his earlier post, Jeff cares about his customers and is easy to talk to. Regards, Bob PS: It fits my VHE 1 frame 16ga 28" also. Guess I'll have to get another.
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