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they seem to be good guns i have a 12 ga with steel barrels and it has killed a few turkeys for me..i lentghed the chambers to 3 1/2 inch it really shoots well but is a shoulder bruiser with the 3 1/2 inch loads of 2 1/4 ounce..weighs in at 7 3/4 lbs...in my opinion they are made of good stuff a 20 ga would be a fine gun to add to anybody s collection...charlie