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well this evening i had a nice big doe in my scope..she had 2 fawns with her they were kinda on the small side so i let them pass...they never got in range for the old eight i had it setting in the corner of the shooting house...some day maybe.... when i got home my wife said to call my grandson i did i had to go help drag out a big 10 point..16 inch spread and about 185 a very nice deer..will get pictures posted shortly... charlie