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I have to agree Mr.Murphy they made some fine bird guns,I have a real soft spot for Lefevers as well.But they're so rare up here I very rarely get to see one... but a friend of mine just brought in another G grade to my shop ,thinking my pivot G had the heaviest barrels I've ever seen was immediately put to rest after seeing his 32 inch 12 bore tubes with a min wall thickness at .68 and .111 plus muzzles !