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OK so they are spoonies!!!! But man were they coming in on a string last weekend. Dairy pond outside Dublin TX. Clean double with a CH 12ga using Hevi-Shot Classic Doubles (I'm saving my RSTs for mallards!) 18 birds in the bag between 3 guns and I shot the only non-shoveler, a nice drake greenwing. Badger the brit made all the retrives. Fun day.