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I've shot smokeless powder through my 1907? damascus Ithaca 1-1/2 Flues 12ga in stainless steel hulls that took a pistol sized percussion cap on a nipple on the back of the shell. They worked great and got me a few spruce grouse. I haven't seen those steel cases since the early 80's. I do remember that they were pretty stout and took fiber wads if I remember right.