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I had an early 28 gauge Parker VH that was cylinder and full. I loved it because it worked so well on so many types of birds including clays. Sadly I let it go when times were tough. I was shooting a 12 gauge GH #1 frame with 2 1/2" RST 7/8 oz @ 1200 fps today and it accounted very well for itself with .005 & .027.