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stoped and bought me a box of reo 12 ga 1 1/4 ounce of no 5 s this evening..was not bad on the price either 10.50....a fella got to shoot thru a lot of leaves at this time of year so i like to shoot a load that can penetrate the leaves and still get the squirl...a fellow once said leave the small bores at home while the leaves are on. i tend to agree with him...charlie