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Unread 01-05-2013, 01:38 PM   #11
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My comment was meant as advice to a person who may have more guns to sell. It was not a slight as you describe it. It was a good piece of advice that I would give to anyone. My congratulations were also sincere. I'm sorry that we are so picky. You and the other two will not get me to admit that my comment was inappropriate. If it were a widow lady offering a CHE 28 gauge for $800, how would you feel about my comment then?
Hubris (pron.: /ˈhjuːbrɪs/), also hybris, from ancient Greek ὕβρις, means extreme pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.

Perhaps the government should determine the asking price of all used firearms. That might keep all of you greedy Parker collectors from accumulating all of the wealth of Parker shotguns while the rest of us are stuck shooting the scratched up Mossberg 500's our drunken uncles purchased from Kmart in the 1980's. I will admit I find it comforting to know that someone is here to assist and approve of the private party transactions on this page. It's almost like having our own little member of the Obama Adminstration to explain the difference between right, wrong, need, and greed.

The bottom line is that you know NOTHING of the gun in question. It was a simple listing with no details regarding condition. Yet you are somehow qualified to determine that the asking price was chosen by the seller via the dart board method? Interesting.

Mr. Ouellette accepted the offer and has assumed a degree of risk. Your comments, if anything, have created a cause for pause. The seller is either very ethical, or read your comments and still feels he is obtaining a fair price for the item. Whom have you really helped? Given the fact that there are hundreds of forums where firearms may be listed for free, don't you think that an individual who has 1) found the PGCA website, and 2) understood the value of paying $40 for the benefit of posting to this one particular forum has clearly already done a little bit of homework? Might there be a little compensation for the seller in knowing that their family heirloom is going to someone who will value the firearm in the same manner as the previous owner?

How many resources are available on the internet for someone to ascertain a reasonable estimate as to the value of their gun? There's quite a few, so for someone to land HERE and purchase a membership without also experiencing one or more of those other resources would seem unlikely. Your ability to determine who does and does not need help on this forum is what I call hubris. They probably didn't get here by opening the phone book.

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The sign up form says use your real name.
That's not entirely accurate. Try to create an account with a fictional name like Beetleguese.
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Unread 01-05-2013, 02:18 PM   #12
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[QUOTE=Bruce Day;91669) Harry Truman, when asked by a reporter why he was always giving people hell, replied, " I don't give them hell. I just tell them the truth and they think its hell."[/QUOTE]

I really didn't think you were giving me hell. I thought I was giving you guys hell because I (and the other forum members) can't get on the FS section. lol
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Unread 01-05-2013, 02:33 PM   #13
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Greg, posting and access to the sale section has long been for PGCA members only....its a BOD decision. I agree with it for a lot of reasons. Go to a meeting up where you are and discuss the matter with PGCA people, there are many where you are.

Will, here's what the registration click on says "You MUST register with your REAL FIRST AND LAST NAME ( i.e.- "John Doe" ) to participate on this forum."
It is true that a person can still enter a fake name after certifying he has read the instruction, and the computer would never know, but we would. So far the human brain is still superior. People here will eventually call a poster on it or the web supervisor will step in but no one likes to be policeman.

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Unread 01-05-2013, 02:37 PM   #14
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I for one fully support the rules on this forum, but I understand and respect those who do not. For those who do not, there are plenty of other forums with fewer rules, such as the Double Gun Shop
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Unread 01-05-2013, 03:06 PM   #15
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im ready to talk parkers.... charlie
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Here, here. I am ready to shoot Parkers too. Heading to our gun club in just a few
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Why I am here.
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The wood on that gun is just beautiful! And I see you got your limit as well.
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Bruce, is that a Munsterlander in the third photo?
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