?'s on an 1890 PH with Vulcan barrels

nid-28 · 03-23-2012, 04:29 PM

I've acquired a 12 ga. PH Grade gun serial number 59683 made in 1890. It is a # 1 frame gun that weighs 7lbs even with 30 inch Vulcan steel barrels that are numbered correctly to the gun. It also has ejectors which I believe were added when the barrels were fitted. The gun has the early non-slotted hinge pin. I'm ordering a letter and that may shed some light on the conversion, if I'm lucky. I'd love to hear comments from other Parker owners who have or have had re-barreled damascus guns. It's the trimmest 12 bore Parker I've ever owned and I plan on using it in the field. The chambers are 2 3/4". I appreciate all of your responses! BD

Researcher · 03-23-2012, 04:40 PM

My 1889 vintage, heavy, Quality 2, 2-frame, hammerless, Damascus barrel 12-gauge gun, was fitted with a set of Vulcan Steel 32-inch 20-gauge barrels, sometime after they changed the rib address to CT, U.S.A. At that time the gun was fitted with the post-1910 bolt and bolt plates on both sets of barrels.

The gun is currently with Craig Libhart for new wood and a reblue on the 20-gauge barrels. My appologies to regulars getting tired of these pictures of my old two-barrel two-gauge set!!

Bill Murphy · 03-23-2012, 05:14 PM

Please post the letter when you get it. This should be very interesting to those of us who search for "extreme provenance".

Bill Murphy · 03-23-2012, 05:16 PM

So, Dave, what was wrong with the original wood? And where are you on Craig's schedule? Serious Parker rescuers want to know.

Researcher · 03-23-2012, 07:50 PM

The original stock has extreme drop, and I've been shooting it with a slip-on monte carlo. Also, has a chip out of the toe including the toe of the butt plate. This gun was used a lot. The checkering is mostly worn off the grip and both forearms, and parts of the butt plate are smooth. It was not a gunroom queen.

I dropped the gun off with Craig at The Vintage Cup. We've emailed back and forth, and selected the blank to be used. Craig has done drawings and dimensions are settled on. The major thing I need to decide on is do we use a repro buttplate or a recoil pad?

Larry Angus · 03-23-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

The original stock has extreme drop, and I've been shooting it with a slip-on monte carlo. Also, has a chip out of the toe including the toe of the butt plate. This gun was used a lot. The checkering is mostly worn off the grip and both forearms, and parts of the butt plate are smooth. It was not a gunroom queen.

I dropped the gun off with Craig at The Vintage Cup. We've emailed back and forth, and selected the blank to be used. Craig has done drawings and dimensions are settled on. The major thing I need to decide on is do we use a repro buttplate or a recoil pad?

What size butt plate does it use. I have an original butt plate. It has a large #1 on the back. It has mild wear but looks great. I also have the screws. I was going to use it on my Parker 16 Trojan, but I went with a butt pad instead since when I removed a messy pad the stock was sanded straight. I was told this is for a 20 or a 16, but I am not sure. I know this is not the "for sale" forum, but you have a nice gun and I want this to go to a good home....

Double Lab · 03-23-2012, 09:37 PM

Dave,
Neat gun. Show it all you like.

Researcher · 03-23-2012, 09:57 PM

The gun is with Craig on the other side of the country from me. The original butt plate screws are in fine shape, but I don't know the size of the butt plate. This gun started life as a over nine pound, 2-frame, 12-gauge, so it had a fairly large butt, more like a 3-frame 10-gauge.

Bill Murphy · 03-24-2012, 07:57 AM

I would use nothing but an original #2 butt plate more than 5" in length. How about an original skeleton butt. It's only money. My latest project has a big skeleton and it looks great on a brown VH.

Larry Angus · 03-24-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

The gun is with Craig on the other side of the country from me. The original butt plate screws are in fine shape, but I don't know the size of the butt plate. This gun started life as a over nine pound, 2-frame, 12-gauge, so it had a fairly large butt, more like a 3-frame 10-gauge.

I hear lots of discussion regarding frame sizes. Is there a chart in one of the Parker books or somewhere else that would provide general specifications on what frame sizes go with which guages and type of Parkers?