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Old 11-06-2023, 03:20 PM   #11
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From my 'Invincible' folder. These predate Shelly Gitman's ownership.
The catalog, done on a 'typewriter' (a mechanical device used to imprint letters on a piece of paper).
The photo of Gary and Denise Herman, at the Sahara, ca 1972. IIRC.
I got to fondle 230,329, and 200,000 (technically NOT an invincible)
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Gary Herman can tell 90% of the real story. The German can tell the rest of the story. Why is 200,000 not technically an Invincible, not that I have a dog in this fight?
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The story of the A.C. Midleton, 16-gauge, Invincible, 230329, authored by Dick Baldwin, was in the May 1971 issue of Guns & Ammo.
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Gary Herman can tell 90% of the real story. The German can tell the rest of the story. Why is 200,000 not technically an Invincible, not that I have a dog in this fight?
Because 200,000 was recorded as a “PP Superfine” in the column that determined Grade.





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200,000 was the inspiration for the Invincible, but when it was made, the name didn't exist.
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I would still like to own and/or shoot it, regardless of its faulty provenance.
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IMO 200,000 is still one of the three Invincibles.





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Gary Herman displayed the A.C. Middleton gun at the 1970 NRA convention.

230329 11 1970 NRA Convention.jpeg

Moments after I took that picture I turned around and met Elmer Keith.
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My ex and I were in Gary's shop around 1970 on a visit to her mother in Rockport, Mass. Gary had a fine little DH 28 gauge for $2650. He also had the Middleton gun with an actual price tag on it. I passed on both. Researcher, I'm sure Elmer was impressed.
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Gary Herman can tell 90% of the real story. The German can tell the rest of the story.
Would that have been Jaeger?
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