WC Scott hammer guns ?

[Setter Man]

It was barrel heavy but not as much as you would expect. I have a 20/32 VHE and while not as heavy, the balance is about the same. The biggest problem with the 40” barrels was keeping them from hitting the ground when the action was open. I’m 6’1” and I can tell you it’s not 40” from my hip to the ground. They were actually a pain in the butt to manage because I was always worried about hitting the ground/ concrete with them. I’ll try to find a couple photos of the gun.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

I wish someone would take such a gun quail hunting.
Would be a challenge swinging barrels like that in the bush .

It would be more of a challenge to get permission to use such a weapon at all on many quail lodges or plantations. Most would not allow it.





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[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

It would be more of a challenge to get permission to use such a weapon at all on many quail lodges or plantations. Most would not allow it.





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I think your are mostly right , I think it would really depend though .
We would pretty much meet any request of our guests . We even hunted quail during a storm once because they wanted to stay out in the field a bit longer lol.
One of the plantations someone mentioned in another thread , their website said they would allow any gauge . I doubt they imagined someone showing up with a 40" 12 ga or a 8 gauge for quail . I wonder if anyone here has used the short 10 ga for quail ? The standard load most of our guests used was the cheap rios in 20 ga and #7.5 shot I think it was . However one time we had some boxes of #9s get mixed into the case and they resulted in a higher kill ratio . So they were arguing with each other who was going to get to use the rest of the #9 loads .

The quail hunting landscape here has greatly changed since last year because of the hurricane we lost a great deal of pine trees . So now the quail hunting areas are alot more wide and open .





Has anyone had a set of W.&C. Scott damascus barrels refinished ?
I would think they would come out looking pretty nice like the American barrels .

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Jay Gardner

It was barrel heavy but not as much as you would expect. I have a 20/32 VHE and while not as heavy, the balance is about the same. The biggest problem with the 40” barrels was keeping them from hitting the ground when the action was open. I’m 6’1” and I can tell you it’s not 40” from my hip to the ground. They were actually a pain in the butt to manage because I was always worried about hitting the ground/ concrete with them. I’ll try to find a couple photos of the gun.

Ive seen people carry sxs/o/u's with the barrels broke open and the buttstock over their shoulder with the barrels facing down . Might be a better way to carry these long guns . I know with 32" barrels I would have to watch the doorway when taking the guns outside as to not hit the muzzles .

[Ken Hill]

Milton,

This is a 10gauge W&C Scott, but it isn't inexpensive http://www.ospreyarms.com/product/w-...ier-hammergun/.

Ken

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Ken Hill

Milton,

This is a 10gauge W&C Scott, but it isn't inexpensive http://www.ospreyarms.com/product/w-...ier-hammergun/.

Ken

Beautiful gun but even if I could afford it I would pass .
7lbs just sounds odd for a 10 ga and I like my 10 ga barrels to be 32" . I think premier is the grade of the shotgun ? Most premiers I've seen are hammerless sidelocks . Those are some tall hammers !

[stumpstalker]

Milton:

Here’s a W. & C. Scott that has not-so-tall hammers.

My reprint of the 1890 Lovell Arms, of Boston, MA catalogue advertises two W. & C. Scott guns, each occupying entire and facing pages; one a hammerless, the other, depicted below, a Low Circular hammer gun.

Gauges available were 16; 12; 10 and 8.

Much is made in the ad copy of the low hammers, as follows:

“that the hammers when cocked lay VERY LOW (much lower than on any other hammer gun on the market). For this reason it is preferred by many to a hammerless gun.”

The grip type is alluded to by describing the gun as having a “Pistol Stock”, which today is more fashionably associated with Albert Edward, Prince of Wales (1841-1910).

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Russell E. Cleary

Milton:

Here’s a W. & C. Scott that has not-so-tall hammers.

My reprint of the 1890 Lovell Arms, of Boston, MA catalogue advertises two W. & C. Scott guns, each occupying entire and facing pages; one a hammerless, the other, depicted below, a Low Circular hammer gun.

Gauges available were 16; 12; 10 and 8.

Much is made in the ad copy of the low hammers, as follows:

“that the hammers when cocked lay VERY LOW (much lower than on any other hammer gun on the market). For this reason it is preferred by many to a hammerless gun.”

The grip type is alluded to by describing the gun as having a “Pistol Stock”, which today is more fashionably associated with Albert Edward, Prince of Wales (1841-1910).

Does that say 110$ or 300$ I cant really make it out either way wouldnt that make them a pretty expensive sxs for the time ?

Theres a couple of Lovell 10 gauges on gunbroker also I have never heard of them before . Seems like you wouldnt want short hammers on a hammergun especially if you are wearing gloves .

[Milton C Starr]

The 10 ga W.& C. Scott im looking at is a tall hammer gun .

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

It would be more of a challenge to get permission to use such a weapon at all on many quail lodges or plantations. Most would not allow it.
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I think if i booked a hunt and rolled in one of those joints with a short barrel 10 and my 1 1/8 ounce handloads they can suck the hind tit or give me a FULL refund .