Western 12 gauge 3" "Record"

[Researcher]

These are the LEADER Super-Speed offerings from a 1937-8 Winchester folder --

LEADER Super-Speed listings 1937-8.jpeg

and here are the regular Super-Speed listings from the same folder --

Super-Speed loads 1937-8.jpg

and finally the RANGER listings showing the Handicap Trap Loads with the Kopperklad shot near the bottom.

RANGER loads 1937-8.jpeg

Another thing to note is that Winchester put up the 1 ounce 20-gauge, progressive burning powder, high velocity, load in both a 2 1/2 and a 2 3/4 inch shell, while everyone else only cataloged that load in a 2 3/4 inch or longer shell.

Super-Speed 2 1-2 inch 20-gauge.jpg Super-Speed 2 3-4 inch 20-gauge.jpg

[Dean Romig]

Bill, didn’t you buy an unopened case of Nash’s ammo a few years ago?






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[Bill Murphy]

I did.

[Will Gurton]

Sorry I'm running a little behind the ball lately.

Here is a 3" KopperKlad box I picked up a couple of years ago.

Will

[Will Gurton]

And here is one I got in the mail yesterday.

[Bill Murphy]

Will, are these 3"?

[Dean Romig]

The box is stamped 2 7/8 in. right above WESTERN

Wouldn't those have been made 1/8" longer than a 2 3/4" chamber, adhering to the old practice of making the chambers 1/8" short for a better gas seal?




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[Will Gurton]

No Bill they are an eighth of an inch short.

Will

[Will Gurton]

Dean,

My understanding is that special wadding was used to relieve shot deformation in high end target loads and is what predicated the additional length in order to ensure proper crimp.

But I am by no means an authority.

Will

[Dean Romig]

Nor am I Will.




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