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Unread 06-11-2017, 08:50 AM   #21
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Bill, is it a G&H Springfield? Walter Eiserer did some great ones while working there. Many more people seem to prefer their Mauser auctioned guns, but I always seem to go against the flow.
I have a .22 Hornet on an '03 receiver that Walter made, in the classic G&H stock, but not marked as such, as he built it after leaving there.
RG Owen was another who thought highly of G&H mounts and since he was head of Winchesters custom dept. for many years, it just makes sense a M70 should have one.
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Unread 06-11-2017, 09:03 AM   #22
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Sorry wrong Bill.
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Unfortunately the "collectors" of pre64 M70's will reduce the value of a gun with a G&H side mount. There a good system.
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You can always find another current production Super grade but you'll pay dearly to find another Pre-64 with period glass.
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It's true pure collectors would not want the drilled for scope mount gun. There is another group of enthusiasts who enjoy real shooting guns with appropriate modifications, at much less cost and resale value.

I own a M 1903 Arsenal produced sporter that was drilled for a Redfield Mount years ago. Worth a fraction of unaltered gun. It carries a long slide Lyman 48 with a slide filler And either a Weaver T 10 for targets or a K 2.5 hunting. I don't know how you could find a better handling 30/06 unless it was a early production M 70 fitted the same way.

Have my eye on. G&H .257 Roberts on a commercial Mauser action now. To my eye nothing new can touch it even the custom rifles.

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Unread 06-11-2017, 07:16 PM   #26
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G&H and Bob Owen Springfield's are to my eye the best of all of that era's custom rifles.Years ago Kittery Trading post had a bunch of G&H sporters...regular rifles, one carbine and the one that I wanted badly was a 400 Whelen, Wonderful wood, usual horn forend, Lyman peep and all the usual G&H stuff but without the side mount. The barrel was 1/4 octagon 3/4 Round with integral rib and front sight. Had the original dies and some brass. just an exception example of their work. It was the late 1980's and they wanted $1800. Sat there for months and they marked it down to $1200. Could not make myself buy it as that was a lot of money to me back then. Terrible decision!
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Edgar, my Springfield is not a G&H sporter. It was built by John Oberlies in Dayton, Ohio in 1934. I also have a Model 54 Swift sporter, also built by Oberlies in the thirties, also with a G&H side mount.
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Correction, it isnt a bear cub on the .257. That is on the pre war .220 swift. The GH is on the .257 bit i cannot find a brand name on the scope. It may be a copper body from the scratches on it, but i cannot determine a maker.
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Thought i would post a few pics for those more knowledgeable than I to see.

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The scope is German; Probably Hensoldt or Kahles. The range adjustment says German, the locking screw says Hensoldt or Kahles, Not Zeiss Jena . Tube should be brass.
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