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Unread 11-03-2013, 06:14 PM   #1
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I have no connection to this gun, other than it caught my eye during its first auction, which closed at around $3300 if memory serves. Not sure why its back on the block...in any event, what are the opinions on whether those case colors are original? The more I look at them, the less sure I am. And then there's the matter of the Vulcan barrels on a G grade...

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Unread 11-03-2013, 06:38 PM   #2
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It's difficult to say without having the gun in hand but if I had to guess I would say it's been redone. It's a pre Remington gun and to me the colors just don't look quite right. The cocking crank also appears to have been color case hardened and I don't think I have ever seen one with colors. JMHO for what it's worth.
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The rib is from Vulcan barrels but it has the correct P.S. stamp for Parker Special Steel barrels. And then there is the too visible seam between the rib and the doll's head extension... then there are the frame screws that show just too much wear for the level of remaining case color... then there is the checkering which appears too fine (LPI) for a grade 2... then there's the excessive wear on the trigger guard screw and engraving worn off of the retaining screw... but it appears to be an excellent buy at the $999 starting price.
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Unread 11-03-2013, 07:08 PM   #4
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It's too bad these guns didn't come with an odometer to tell us what the original miles were.
This one probably had the odometer turned back a little.
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or could it be a Remington era gun, which are known to have been made using less than strict parker bros. era specs?
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The fore end looks more like the Remington, bull nose style, as opposed to the more slender Meriden style. Colors aren't what one would expect from Meriden either, but it might have been worked over in Illion.
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or an old Turnbull restoration.
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I do not believe this gun has original Meriden case colors. The look is not at all like the colors for a gun of that era. This is a gun made about 1928.
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I believe the forend iron has not been redone, but receiver has. I also have issues with the fit of the wood to the receiver.
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This is an example of factory case colors on a gun made the same year as the one asked about in this thread.
And is a good example of colors from this era.
A glossier on the surface look. Kind of like oil or gasoline on a water puddle.

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