Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 03-11-2013, 06:48 PM   #31
Member
Fishtail
PGCA Lifetime
Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 789
Thanks: 63
Thanked 512 Times in 254 Posts

Default

1919 was a pretty good year to be alive in the USA. Big war just ended, the Roaring 20's were kicking off and the Great Depression was not even a glimmer. Most of all, you could order a really righteous Parker.
greg conomos is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03-11-2013, 07:53 PM   #32
Member
Pa SxS
Research Chairman
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Chuck Bishop's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,977
Thanks: 1,272
Thanked 5,300 Times in 1,503 Posts

Default

This gun was being sold by a dealer/gunsmith near Reading Pa a few months ago. I believe he either posted pictures here or on Trapshooters.com. The asking price at that time was 50k as I recall. I e-mailed him with a few questions which he responded to and I told him, if he wanted, I would take a drive over and answer any questions about the gun that I could answer. He never contacted me about that. The gun was owned by a Dr. in Adamstown just south of Harrisburg. You just never know where these guns will surface!
Chuck Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Chuck Bishop For Your Post:
Unread 03-11-2013, 08:06 PM   #33
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 16,542
Thanks: 6,764
Thanked 9,888 Times in 5,251 Posts

Default

Craig, I had a very nice correspondence with the dealer also, and he sent me some great pictures. Your boy didn't shoot any ATA trap in the years after he bought the gun and he did not attend the Hegins shoot as far as I can tell. Hegins is a very popular annual pigeon shoot and social event in the area where the Doctor lived. He probably shot pheasants with the great gun, but apparently did not shoot for money.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bill Murphy For Your Post:
Unread 03-11-2013, 08:36 PM   #34
Member
Pa SxS
Research Chairman
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Chuck Bishop's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,977
Thanks: 1,272
Thanked 5,300 Times in 1,503 Posts

Default

Craig, I think that stamp on the barrel flat is the symbol for Peerless steel
Chuck Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03-11-2013, 09:49 PM   #35
Member
Coach
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Carl Brandt's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 133
Thanks: 21
Thanked 203 Times in 50 Posts

Default

Craig,

If you are still babysitting, can you take a picture or two of the socks (felt sleeves) for this gun. Are there any markings on them?

Thanks,
Carl.
Carl Brandt is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03-12-2013, 04:56 AM   #36
Member
Craig Larter
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Craig Larter's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,799
Thanks: 3,411
Thanked 11,908 Times in 1,866 Posts

Default

Thanks everyone for all the help, Carl the pictures you requested are below. The sleeves appear to be a fine green billiard felt. The gun goes back to my friend tomorrow, it was wonderful to have it in hand for a few days.
I did find some newspaper references to Dr. Ziemer traveling to Canada to duck hunt in 1926 with a group of docs from the Lancaster area. I am in touch with the Lancaster County library. Dr. Ziemer was the county Medical Director for many years. I did locate Dr. Ziemer's granddaughter so I am hoping she can add some color to the history of this fine gun.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg felt_sleeves.jpg (65.6 KB, 6 views)
Craig Larter is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Craig Larter For Your Post:
Unread 03-12-2013, 07:12 AM   #37
Member
Bruce Day
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Bruce Day's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,995
Thanks: 554
Thanked 15,698 Times in 2,676 Posts

Default

Craig thank you for the pictures of the gun sleeves. Green felt is an odd material, as TPS describes the sleeve material for high grade guns as "chamois", which I take to be a fawn colored high quality cotton flannel. For lower grade guns, a coarse weave olive brown green cotton material was used. They had fold over tops with string ties ( not drawstrings). I have seen one high grade with the original chamois sleeves .

The green felt may be replacement sleeves rather than originals. Does anybody have any insight on this or have green felt sleeves been seen before?
Bruce Day is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03-12-2013, 07:14 AM   #38
Member
Cold Spring
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,146
Thanks: 4,060
Thanked 7,177 Times in 1,391 Posts

Default

Craig, as many others have said, what a wonderful gun. As one interested in technical stuff this brings up a good question, I think. Hang tag states "use shells 2-5/8" long". If Parker practice was to cut 12 ga chambers 1/8-inch short, does the gun have 2-1/2" chambers? I wonder how they compare against other Parkers with 2-5/8" chambers made for 2-3/4" shells?
Frank Srebro is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03-12-2013, 08:30 AM   #39
Member
Double Play
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Larry Frey's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,308
Thanks: 944
Thanked 2,796 Times in 642 Posts

Default

Carl,
Attached is a pic of the only gun I ever had that came with what I believe to be original gun socks. They are the fold over fawn colored cotton flannel that Bruce mentioned.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN0563 s.jpg (90.1 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN0564 s.jpg (44.7 KB, 2 views)
Larry Frey is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Larry Frey For Your Post:
Unread 03-12-2013, 08:34 AM   #40
Member
Craig Larter
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Craig Larter's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,799
Thanks: 3,411
Thanked 11,908 Times in 1,866 Posts

Default

The chambers measure 2 5/8". According to Researcher none of the shell manufacturers made a 3 1/8 dram 1 1/4oz shell for 2 5/8" chambered gun in or around 1920. All the shell catalogs show "for 2 3/4 chambers only" for the load listed on the hang tag. Just another question to unravel.
The green sleeves do not have draw strings they fold over.
Craig Larter is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:06 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2025, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.