Opinions, please.

[C grade]

William
Gage mates, etc ,are not allowed in the Fall Southern SXS. The gun shot must be in the Gage Parker Bros manufactured it in. Damascus guns are deemed safe if used with low pressure loads.
David

[William Davis]

I have a 20G Trojan just as it left the factory and own and shoot Damascus Parkers. Am looking at a 12 DH Damascus that may have barrels past saving. If so the options are Donor old barrel same gauge, Sleeve same gauge, or some sort of insert that would have to be in a smaller gauge

Wanted to know what events it could be used in with the various options. Looks like Challenge but not the Southern with anything but as shipped from the factory. If so considering the cost of the first two, it’s not worth trying to save the gun. Not a problem just wanted to know before buying.

William

[C grade]

If you bring it back in the same gage you can shoot it in all the events. If you sleeve it to a smaller gage, you can shoot it but in handicapped events you do not receive the bonus birds. I do not know if you can shoot it in sub gage events but if the rules do not preclude that, it is strongly frowned upon.
David

[Larry the Gun Guy]

Hell NO, no tube sets.

Go to any sporting clays event and try to shoot your 410 or 28 SxS against the guy with the 11 pound target gun with a set of full length tubes and see who wins that one. I think it should be about the gun, not the score that you can achieve with your best 12 gauge gun. Although I do understand it could be an affordability issue for some and an inconvenience for others, like myself, to ship several guns across the country to compete in an event, but my god can't we be true to something in the country.

[Mills]

My opinion is nothing that was not around when the Parkers were made.

[C grade]

Larry
I agree completely. I can hold my own with an original small gage, light and whippy, Parker but not against some one with a sleeved 10 lb 2 frame 12ga. Those guns are not allowed at the Fall SXS at Backwoods and that is one of the many reasons I love that event. It also is 20 min from my home
David

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

I shot the (clay) pigeon ring at Lapeer Michigan last Sunday with my 14 & 1/2 pound DH 8 gauge. To my knowledge had the high score of 22 of 25 targets. A big gun potentially with generate a big score. That's why long ago pigeon and trap guns were limited to a maximum weight of 8 pounds.

Mark

[charlie cleveland]

please explain why a gun that weighs more will do better on targets..charlie

[John Truitt]

Mills,

research auxillary rifle tube inserts/ barrel inserts made by Remington.

Tube sets are NOT new technology. The rifle sets have been around since 1870's or so.

I think it was the Auxillary Rifle barrel company or a name close to that.

There is also some talk of this topic on this forum in the past along with some photos.

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

please explain why a gun that weighs more will do better on targets..charlie

Charlie,

A force in motion tends to stay in motion and a force at rest tends to stay at rest.

Simply stated, heavier guns swing better once moving and also dampen recoil.

Mark