Remington Parker or Meriden gun?

[fred]

I have SN 237758, a 20 gauge VH. It has the PARKER inscription on bottom of the frame, but the rib insciption is PARKER BROS. MAKERS MERIDEN CT. U.S.A. VULCAN STEEL. According to the PGCA letter it was noted in Stock Book NO. 82 as being completed Oct. 23, 1935 and shipped Nov. 15, 1935. The Remington IBM Card describes it as a VH hammerless 20 gauge on the 0 frame with 28 inch Vulcan steel barrels. Do you think the gun was assembled at Remington from Meriden parts?

[Dean Romig]

Hi Fred,

Your Parker was made by original Parker Bros. employees and 'contractors' in Meriden after the Parker Gun Works was purchased by Remington but before the operation was moved to the Remington plant in Ilion, NY. Remington had purchased all of the Parker Bros. inventory of parts, tools, machinery and remaining guns hence the Meriden rib and probably the grip cap and possibly the buttplate too.

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

What Dean said.
It is what I call a Remington-Meriden Parker as opposed to a Remington-Ilion Parker.
Still a Parker.

[fred]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Hi Fred,

Your Parker was made by original Parker Bros. employees and 'contractors' in Meriden after the Parker Gun Works was purchased by Remington but before the operation was moved to the Remington plant in Ilion, NY. Remington had purchased all of the Parker Bros. inventory of parts, tools, machinery and remaining guns hence the Meriden rib and probably the grip cap and possibly the buttplate too.

Dean,
I appreciate the info you gave in answer to my question about the origin of my gun.
Fred

[B. Dudley]

Meriden Parkers made adter the remington 1934 take over will have the "Parker" on the bottom since that was Remington's new way of marking them. But, parts like the barrels which would have been kept in inventory would have the typical Meriden marks on them. Meriden barrels were used on the guns all the way up to after the move to ilion.
It was not until after 1937 that you would see all of the Remington features come to be. Such as, unmarked rib, ilion stamped water table, ilion grip cap, etc...
The frame engraving would have been one of the last things done, thus it was one of the first to transition.

[Duckman]

Originally Posted by Christian Gish

I have SN 237758, a 20 gauge VH. It has the PARKER inscription on bottom of the frame, but the rib insciption is PARKER BROS. MAKERS MERIDEN CT. U.S.A. VULCAN STEEL. According to the PGCA letter it was noted in Stock Book NO. 82 as being completed Oct. 23, 1935 and shipped Nov. 15, 1935. The Remington IBM Card describes it as a VH hammerless 20 gauge on the 0 frame with 28 inch Vulcan steel barrels. Do you think the gun was assembled at Remington from Meriden parts?

Hi Fred,
Here is a 12 ga. I have and I bet our guns know each other. Look at the serial number.
-plc-

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

That is totally cool. 8 guns away.

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

Fred
Show us a picture if you can.

[gman]

I just bought a remington gun I talked about on a recent post titled "choke" Is there a serial number that indicates the complete change over to new york? My trojan ser. # is 238737. Anyone have any info on this?
Thanks

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

At what point did Remington start marking the chokes on barrel flats?
I should know this but I don't or forgot.