Price check: 20 ga VHE

[Setter Man]

Looking at a 20 ga VHE with the following specs (all confirmed with a Research Letter):

32" barrels (full/full)
Chambers: 2-7/8"
Straight stock (DAC=1-5/8, DAH=2-1/4)
#1 Frame
Silvers pad
Weight: 6-lbs, 12-ozs.

Gun is in excellent condition, although I believe it has been refinished (by someone who does good work). Colors look a little dark to me.

Fair price?

Thanks,

JDG

[Ed Blake]

What is the for sale price?

[Setter Man]

Owner wants me to make an offer.

[Ed Blake]

Puglisi had a similar gun earlier in the summer, but it was an extractor gun. Price was $3,995. It had honest wear, but had a nasty looking dent in the right barrel. It had an O frame. I have wondered if someone here got that gun. I agree with Jent on the high end, Might be worth more. Sounds like a great gun.

[Richard Flanders]

Agreed; you're not wrong Greg. $2400 for that gun in 28" would be low, depending somewhat on the refinish quality of course. I thought I did ok getting an all original 28" VH20 for $3400 a few years back... BEFORE prices went ballistic. If mine had a straight stock and ejectors, I'd still be laughing. The only reason I got it for what I did is that it has 3"DAH so no one wanted it. I had to clean up and reblue a patch of lightly corroded finish on one barrel breech(the seller never mentioned that little issue of course); other than that it's in excellent condition - maybe 75% or so... maybe a bit higher. It's very clean.

[Setter Man]

This is an interesting prediciment. Presented with an opportunity to buy a 20 ga V with straight stock and 28" barrels for $2,800 I would jump in a heartbeat. In addition to the diserable configuration, there is probably nothing that could not be hunted with that gun and if I could have only one SxS it would probably be that gun (talking real world here, not English guns). However, the gun in question is a #1 frame 20 that is pushing 7 lbs when loaded - not a terribly practicle or verstatile gun and I think a lot of the value is probably based on it being collectable. However, it's been re-finished andthere goes the collectability.

Based on the contents of the letter, I believe this gun was built specifically for the pigeon rings and/or duck marshes of California. Regardless, it's a pretty specialized gun probably best suited today for clays, phez, and ducks over decoys. Perhaps I am trying to justify a lower offer but that's why I ask.

Any additional thoughts?

JDG

Originally Posted by Jay Gardner

This is an interesting prediciment. Presented with an opportunity to buy a 20 ga V with straight stock and 28" barrels for $2,800 I would jump in a heartbeat. In addition to the diserable configuration, there is probably nothing that could not be hunted with that gun and if I could have only one SxS it would probably be that gun (talking real world here, not English guns). However, the gun in question is a #1 frame 20 that is pushing 7 lbs when loaded - not a terribly practicle or verstatile gun and I think a lot of the value is probably based on it being collectable. However, it's been re-finished andthere goes the collectability.

Based on the contents of the letter, I believe this gun was built specifically for the pigeon rings and/or duck marshes of California. Regardless, it's a pretty specialized gun probably best suited today for clays, phez, and ducks over decoys. Perhaps I am trying to justify a lower offer but that's why I ask.

Any additional thoughts?

JDG

-- It would be a great pass shooting dove gun- 32" barrels most likely balance better on a size 1 frame- But in my late granddad's day- box birds were always a 12 gauge game- due to the amount of sinero on the line- a 12 will always outperform a 20, just as a 20 will outperform a .410--Has the Parker market gotten softer this year, compared to 2008, when the 'sky was the limit? Boy Howdy- I look at the ads and prices Jay Schacter (sic) is asking for his high-end guns on GI and other sites and you wouldn't know it. Reconditioned Parkers by Del Grego and Turnbull, with attendant letters to prove it- are they worth the asking prices today? Just wondering is all-

[Dean Romig]

Two years ago that would have been a $6500 gun...
today - $4500 - $5000.
No, it's not an upland gun, but quite unusual and collectible yet.

[Dean Romig]

Francis, an "asking price" is exactly that... an asking price. It's a starting place most of the time, but sometimes it's a firm price.

Every Parker I've seen Jay put on the net for sale has been a nice gun - granted, some of them are refinished guns, but nicely done.

Dean

[quote=Dean Romig;48872]Francis, an "asking price" is exactly that... an asking price. It's a starting place most of the time, but sometimes it's a firm price.He does get some beautiful doubles. Jay is a member of our Fruitridge Farms Pheasant Club, and will often bring some fine guns to a Tower shoot, and the post-luncheon pick-up hunt-- He is always willing to let you shoot any of them you wish to try out, and I will give him credit for including all the salient details of a shotgun he is selling in his ads- all info I would want to know firsthand, now if I could only find a spare $50K to 'invest"- ah, there's the rub!!