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Unread 06-02-2025, 03:29 PM   #1
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With apologies to S. Coleman's poem.

I have put on lay-away a, 16Ga Trojan, that needs a home and repairs do to the "quady" bluing applied to the barrels and receiver.

Did a trap on a ATM slip that measured less than 0.002" thickness. and the lockup of the barrels and the receiver, held it tight.

Once it is mine, I will change the choking: "Right: IC, & Left MOD", as I looking @ SKT1 & SKT2. Barrel length: 27" .

Its duty will be Skeet shooting, upland Birds: here in MI., working over my Dog: TYSON , an 8YR old Springer.

What chokes would you recommend??

[ Have a first generation Ruger RL, with 26" barrels and the SKt1 & Skt2.

thanks for responses.

Agree with G. Hill proverb: nothing more like of a gentleman sportman's , with bird dog and a SXS in 16!"

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I'd leave it IC/MOD. If it's 27" someone has trimmed the barrels.
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Before you do anything to the chokes measure the inside barrel diameter then the choke diameter. So many dealers look through the barrels at the choke shadow and declare such and such choke. Others use a drop in device which does not take into account the bore size.If you can not do it have a good gunsmith or machinist do it.

You may be surprised with the result.
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I grew up in New England with a Parker 16. Took a lot of grouse and woodcock with it
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16s rule!
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Brought the "Trojan" home!

Going to the smith to confirm that the chambers can be lengthen, first and
detailed cleaning and lube job.

SN indicated build 1919.
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You don’t really need to lengthen chambers on a Trojan unless simply to reduce recoil by a minuscule amount.




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In the 70's I shot trap with the VH,with reloads and new AA trap loads.

In August of 2021, I traveled to Larry Del Greco's shop, and the first thing asked after a lite inspection, he pointed out the two parallel cracks, in the top of the stock wrist, and said
you have shot a few more boxes of 2-3/4-inch shells, with the 2-5/8-inch chambers.

So, there is some damage.

So, it is better to lengthen chamber for proper case length.
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Fifty years ago, the Del Gregos charged me about fifteen bucks a side to lengthen the chambers on my 28 VH to 2 3/4". Fifty years later, those chambers are 2 1/2" long. After many thousands of 2 3/4" shells fired, the stock is still uncracked.
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