Antimony shortage

[J.B. Books]

Picking up on part of a discussion in another thread. Antimony is used to make lead shot harder and it is used in many other applications. It appears it could be in short supply going forward. Will it push up the price of a bag of lead shot higher than it already is?

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...rzseGTXjNALC7w

[Cold Spring]

Last week a friend in the industry predicted 15-20% higher pricing for hard lead shot and much higher prices for loaded shotshells, both as the current supply chains start to be refilled.

PS: Most of my friends that shoot often are keeping 30 or more bags of lead shot on hand, along with equivalent powders, wads and sleeves of primers = Aesop's Fables ant and grasshopper analogy.

[Randy Roberts]

I read that as well Pete. While I don't know the answer, (does anybody) given the current state of affairs with tariffs etc. I am picking up another 20 flats of Fiocchi 1 oz 12 gauge loads tomorrow at $82.50 out the door while I still can. If none of this ever comes to fruition they won't spoil. Never thought I would consider $82.50 out the door to be a good price but..........

[Steve Hodges]

Pete, good warning for all of us. Thanks

[Clark McCombe]

I'm looking at RST 2 1/2" for $230 a flat plus shipping

[Dean Romig]

This could spell the end of clays shooting for some folks and to limit their shooting to hunting only.





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[GH-16]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

This could spell the end of clays shooting for some folks and to limit their shooting to hunting only.





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Some of us here in Colorado have been wondering the same thing. Not only for the inflationary spike in ammo prices or the scarcity of it but come April first we'll also be dealing with a newly imposed 6.5% excise tax on all ammo sales.

When you add this to the cost of a round of sporting clays, plus your transportation costs to the range, a round can easily exceed a hundred bucks.

I am questioning to what extent these factors will affect the middle working-class guy who simply shoots recreationally? I know for this retiree it has had an impact.

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Paul Ehlers

Some of us here in Colorado have been wondering the same thing. Not only for the inflationary spike in ammo prices or the scarcity of it but come April first we'll also be dealing with a newly imposed 6.5% excise tax on all ammo sales.

When you add this to the cost of a round of sporting clays, plus your transportation costs to the range, a round can easily exceed a hundred bucks.

I am questioning to what extent these factors will affect the middle working-class guy who simply shoots recreationally? I know for this retiree it has had an impact.

In the 1990's I shot ATA Trap aka Registered targets. I am looking at the cost of doing it today and it's quite expensive. $30+ dollars for each 100 target event plus an additional $7 for ATA and State Association fees on the first hundred. So you drive 45 to 90 miles each way to shoot singles and handicap, that's $67 dollars in registration fees, plus gas. Most shooters like to start the day by shooting a practice round to shake off the drive, add another $7. You will need nine boxes of shells for that practice round and two events. That will be at least $90 to $100 in ammo if your shooting reloads, more if you shoot quality factory ammo such as AA or STS. If you didn't bring a lunch, a burger bag of chips and soda will cost another $10.

So there 's $167 for 200 targets and ammo plus lunch and then add the cost of gasoline. Shoot the third event, Doubles, now the total cost approaches $237 plus gas.

This is just for a small Sunday afternoon ATA event. Go to a State Championship with a 700 target program over three days and your cost in registration and ammo is at least $600. Need a hotel room for 3 nights add that to it. If you want play the Lewis purse, 25 and 50 options and enter the Calcutta keep adding more money to the cost.

Registered Trap and Skeet has truly become the sport of kings.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Paul Ehlers

Some of us here in Colorado have been wondering the same thing. Not only for the inflationary spike in ammo prices or the scarcity of it but come April first we'll also be dealing with a newly imposed 6.5% excise tax on all ammo sales.

When you add this to the cost of a round of sporting clays, plus your transportation costs to the range, a round can easily exceed a hundred bucks.

I am questioning to what extent these factors will affect the middle working-class guy who simply shoots recreationally? I know for this retiree it has had an impact.

Is that a Colorado tax on ammo?

I know shooting is becoming more expensive, but I can look back on this forum several years ago and there were a few people telling other people to "Buy all you can now instead of complaining and don't stop buying." That has served me well and everyone should be in full buy mode now. As far as prices, think about the monumental waste of money GOLF is, and that makes the pain of shooting easy to tolerate.

[GH-16]

Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco

Is that a Colorado tax on ammo?

I know shooting is becoming more expensive, but I can look back on this forum several years ago and there were a few people telling other people to "Buy all you can now instead of complaining and don't stop buying." That has served me well and everyone should be in full buy mode now. As far as prices, think about the monumental waste of money GOLF is, and that makes the pain of shooting easy to tolerate.

Yes, it is a Colorado tax that will kick-in starting April 1st. There is also an ammo bill going through the state house right now that would place additional hassles & expenses for purchasing ammo or components online & having it shipped.

Up until this new excise tax was enacted we would only be paying the state sales tax rate of 2.9% for online ammo or component shipments. We will now have the 6.5% on top of that for a total of 9.4% plus the hazmat & shipping charges plus the state .29 cent delivery fee on everything we have delivered. Then if you buy in-state at a retail outlet, you'll have to pay the local taxes on top of the others. In some cities or counties this could add up to between 15 to 20% total tax for ammo or components purchases.

This state has gone nuts & the war on guns here continues unabatted.