10 Gauge, A View from the Past

[Joe Graziano]

In researching a piece for submission to the Parker Pages, I purchased through EBay a copy of the September, 1957 Pennsylvania Game News. It is fun to read a time capsule. I thought I would share a somewhat amusing passage from an article on new shotguns for that year.

“The ten gauge shotgun is largely a thing of the past. No domestic firearms company is making them and you must import them. There are two ‘super tens’ being imported today that are the counterpart of the long departed Ithaca and Parker super-tens of the 1930’s. These shot a 3 1/2 inch shell developed by Western cartridge company. It used two full ounces of shot at high velocity.”

Ouch

[charlie cleveland]

joe i too love reading the old magazines from the past....i like shooting sportsman the best...my favorite gun is the 10 ga...i m gladits made in america again.....the big ten i 3 1/2 inch chambers is a small 8 gauge in disguise...it can be loaded up to 3 ounces if a person wants that much of shot.....charlie

[Researcher]

In "correct" terms the Super-Ten was the 2 7/8 inch, progressive burning powder, high velocity, 1 5/8 ounce load 10-gauge introduced circa 1925/6 --

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and the Magnum-Ten was/is the 3 1/2 inch shell loaded with progressive burning powder pushing two ounces of shot (originally) introduced in 1932 --

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[Joe Graziano]

Charlie, Dave great info and pics of the Super 10. I can only imagine the effectiveness on geese of 2 oz-3 oz. of lead shot. Those days are long past, but it is fun to read the old magazines.

[6pt-Sika]

I bought one of the Remington SP-10’s with a 26” barrel in 1990 . It was one of the first year guns as it had the 89 LE in the serial number . I bought that thing for turkey mainly and Federal was making a 2 1/4 ounce #4 or #6 load for it . I had both and wanted to pattern them at 25 and 40 yards from a sitting position with my back against something like I’d be sitting in the woods . Back then I crawled the stock way more then I do now . Anyway the first shot from that thing with those shells opened up a whole new world . Now while I’d still like to have a Parker or Ithaca NID for 10 gauge 3 1/2” I don’t think I care to shoot the 2 1/4 ounce turkey loads in them any longer .

[Bill Murphy]

I would not feel uncomfortable to shoot 2 1/4 ounce 3 1/2" tens in a fluid steel #6 frame ten gauge Parker. In fact, I may do that.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

I would not feel uncomfortable to shoot 2 1/4 ounce 3 1/2" tens in a fluid steel #6 frame ten gauge Parker. In fact, I may do that.

Sit down with your back against a tree as if you were about to shoot a turkey . Standing and rolling with the punch is one thing sitting an unable to roll back is a skoosh different .

[todd allen]

Originally Posted by CraigThompson

I bought one of the Remington SP-10’s with a 26” barrel in 1990 . It was one of the first year guns as it had the 89 LE in the serial number . I bought that thing for turkey mainly and Federal was making a 2 1/4 ounce #4 or #6 load for it . I had both and wanted to pattern them at 25 and 40 yards from a sitting position with my back against something like I’d be sitting in the woods . Back then I crawled the stock way more then I do now . Anyway the first shot from that thing with those shells opened up a whole new world . Now while I’d still like to have a Parker or Ithaca NID for 10 gauge 3 1/2” I don’t think I care to shoot the 2 1/4 ounce turkey loads in them any longer .

I had bought one of the Ithaca Mag 10s back in the 80s. I hand-loaded for it, and developed some pretty effective long range waterfowl loads. Had lots of fun with that gun. But that was back when I was a big, strong kid, and not much affected by recoil.
When shooting a 10-mag, you definitely would not want to have your back resting against an unmovable object. The gun is going to travel backwards, and either your body moves, or it gets mashed a bit.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by todd allen

I had bought one of the Ithaca Mag 10s back in the 80s. I hand-loaded for it, and developed some pretty effective long range waterfowl loads. Had lots of fun with that gun. But that was back when I was a big, strong kid, and not much affected by recoil.
When shooting a 10-mag, you definitely would not want to have your back resting against an unmovable object. The gun is going to travel backwards, and either your body moves, or it gets mashed a bit.

I had a pair of the Ithaca semi auto 10’s inbthe last ten years a field grade and a DeLuxe . Also had a Browning BPS 10 one of these days I’ll get an Ithaca NID Mag 10 but the desire isn’t as great as it used to be . When I patterned that SP-10 I was a stock crawler to the Nth degree to the point that my nose was against/beside my thumb . At the first shot my eyes watered and I immediately felt beneath my nose and it was wet I “assumed” it was blood and after stomping around a bit I looked at my hand , that gun had literally knocked the SNOT out of me . Next couple shots as you can bet my nose was not against my thumb . Had a somewhat similar incident when I was working up loads for a friends 505 Gibbs only that wasn’t my nose the bolt handle got me in the web of the hand .

[6pt-Sika]

If be willing to bet this was the AYA he had built and recently was at auction .