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RST sells 10 loads as a woodcock round
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04-08-2018, 11:43 AM | #4 | ||||||
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Todd,
I just checked what I have it is smaller than 10 shot at .040 to.045. 10 shot is .0669. ballistic products have 10 shot. the stuff I have must be rat shot??? just started looking to see what I have ,it looks like 13 shot? scott
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it was called "dust" maybe its whats loaded for pistol shotshells, but as i understand it was used by those that collect bird specimens for taxidermy displays
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Thanks, guys. If RST will sell me a box, already loaded, that should do the trick.
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BTW, for what its worth. I wouldn't count on 10's as a grouse load, maybe woodcock in the earliest part of the season when the leaves are thick and the shots are close or not at all
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Todd, I’m glad you are doing some analysis on #10 shot. Your findings will be interesting and I hope you write them up for Parker Pages.
There is no doubt that the old time grouse gunners, probably to a man, were using sub size shot. Spiller, Schaldach and Foster used #9’s and the old time gunners I knew, my grandfather included, used #10’s. All of the books, articles and gun company recommendations available to me as a 13 year old boy, beginning a lifetime of grouse shooting, recommended 7 ˝ shot for Ruffed Grouse. My wisdom as a 13 year old told me that my grandfathers and others were wrong. I bought a box of high brass 7 ˝’s to begin my first grouse hunt. My grandfather looked at them, chuckled, and said that we’ll go Larry’s (the local sport shop owner) and get you a few boxes of partridge loads before you hunt. There was an article in Outdoor Life the following year, written by a guy that switched from 7 ˝’s to 9’s and claimed that his birds to hand increased significantly. I thought to myself, maybe those old boys were on to something. I wish I still had that article. However, the conventional wisdom of old timers is not always correct. We’ll see, but they sure took a lot of birds, myself included, with sub size shot. |
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04-08-2018, 12:41 PM | #10 | ||||||
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not that i can claim to be any expert
my normal for the uplands - back when we actually had grouse around here to run setters on, was 9's in the right tube and 8's in the left in the early season- switching to 8's left and 7 1/2 or 7's if i had them later in the season - not because of the old tale about a grouse somehow getting thicker feathers in November vs October, but simply because the leaves were down and the shots were longer Todd, if you test the 10's - a penetration on soft pine or a pad of wet paper might be interesting to see
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