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Unread 05-23-2017, 03:08 PM   #1
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Ok, Who bought the CHE 2 barrel set 20 ga. Str. grip, 26 and 30 in. barrels,with 2 forends All for 5500.00
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Where did this take place?
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Tony. Interesting piece; no dolls head rib extensions on either barrels. Worst Case hardening colors I've ever seen. I think there was a lot more to the "story" than what the listing said. Something like " If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is".
I'd sure like to know what it originally was, as it was pretty interesting engraving.
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Should make for an interesting PGCA letter.
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I think the letter will be quite different from the gun. There are only two 20ga Grade 4 guns, neither of which had straight stocks, in the entire 91,000 range.
I was actually going to run over there to have a look, but his new hours are only Thursdays and Fridays.
I think the neatest part of the whole gun was the lack of dolls heads. I blew up the pictures and am able to see the fill in slot in the receiver, pre engraving. The breech end termination of the rib looks correct, so I'm also thinking monoblocked.
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I think the letter will be quite different from the gun. There are only two 20ga Grade 4 guns, neither of which had straight stocks, in the entire 91,000 range.
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In looking at TPS last night I only see one set of grade 4 20 gage Titanic 30" barrels listed so I assume the other set you referenced is of another type of steel or composite. Interestingly there is also only one set of 29" Titanic barrels listed and they were on Mr. DePauw's earlier CH 20 90585. That gun was also ordered without a dolls head and with straight grip. With the requested changes to 91964 and new matching 30" barrels for both guns this fellow had a pretty nice matched pair of long barreled small bore Parkers.
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Should make for an interesting PGCA letter.
I wonder if the buyer will share the letter, when he gets it.
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I wonder if the buyer will share the letter, when he gets it.
Some times you take a chance and things work out and some times they don't. Chuck did a great job digging up info that helped answer many of the questions regarding this gun. It seems the fellow that ordered this gun had a similar gun about 1500 numbers earlier as he ordered a second set of barrels for both guns with some pretty specific details that are probably related to the aftermarket ejector system on both barrel sets. I believe the first set was cut to 26" and the 30"s are the second set as the chokes match the letter. The lack of a dolls head and the special scroll engraving are also noted in the letter. The gun was originally a PG but was requested to be cut to SG although I can't be sure the gun wears it's original stock regardless of the fact that it's stamped correctly. Below is what I received today and shows why we are so lucky the PGCA has this information and guy's like Mark Conrad earlier and Chuck Bishop today that are willing to work for the organization to make these letters available to us.

Parker shotgun, serial number 91964, was ordered by N.T. DePauw at Camp DePauw, Crooked Lake, IN on April 27, 1899 and shipped on September 8, 1899. According to Parker Bros. Order Book No. 47, it was a CH hammerless, 20-gauge. It featured Titanic steel barrels with a length of 30 inches. Special requests were: RH almost cylinder, LH close, No extended rib, No shield, 2 9/16 chamber, Trigger pull 3 ½ pounds, Scroll engraving, Silver sight, Stock 1 ½” thick at butt, For-end narrow, Trigger guard extra light small bow. The order was placed by du Bray.

The price was $150.00.

According to Parker Bros. Stock Book No. 33, the stock configuration was a pistol grip and its specifications were: Lengths of Pull: 14 3/32”, 14 6/16”, 14 13/16”, Drop at Heel: 2 13/16”, Drop at Comb: 1 Ύ”, Weight: 5 pounds and 13 ounces.

According to Parker Bros. Stock Book No. 56, the gun was returned by N.T. DePauw of Woodruff, WI on March 17, 1902. The request was to fit 30”, 20ga. barrels to both guns. RH 7/8 choke, LH full. For S/N 90585 the request was to fit split extractors if stem size is same as old ones, if not, bore for regular extractors and send borings for split extractors. The price was $50.00. For S/N 91694, the request was to cut P.G. off and make it straight. “Wants extractor holes exact same size as on old barrels, if can do so.” The price was $50.00.
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It is a unique gun and I certainly had my eye on it too. In fact, I was just about to go on that link and make my move but then a guy I used to call a friend told me not to bother......
It has been restocked and probably a new forend too... case colors are... (ahem)... not what we would call "factory correct" so, like my (former) friend told me, "it will certainly be a 'project' gun."




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Since the gun appears to be sold now, I am curious to know if the purchaser took advantage of the 3 day inspection period or if it was even offered.
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