Congress and new gun laws

[Bindlestiff]

Today I received in the mail, a letter from the NRA-ILA asking that I contact my Congressman and Senators and oppose:
1. S. 843 and H.R. 2324 – Close “the gun show loophole”.
2. H.R. 257 – Hold gun owners responsible for crimes committed with their stolen guns.
3. H.R. 2159 and S. 1317 – gives the Attorney General power to create secret list to “black list” gun owners, prohibiting them from owning/purchasing guns without due process.
4. H.R. 45 – Fingerprint, photograph, test and register all gun owners.
5. S. 2820 – National registry of all gun buyers.

I have written voicing my disapproval.

I hope others do the same.

[Richard Flanders]

It's started it seems. The last American Hunter talked of it being not if but when as to when the dems would attempt this kind of crap. Everyone better start emailing their congressman, especially in the blue states. It never ends, eh? They just want to take as many of our freedoms away as possible as rapidly as they possibly can.

[Bob K]

Robin, everyone on this site should be voicing their opinions about this bad legislation. If we don't all get involved soon, we'll all be collecting Parker pens.
Bob K

[Dean Romig]

....or Monopoly.

[Bruce Day]

Any member of congress can at any time congress is in session introduce a bill about anything that member wants, or is forced to introduce by his/her constituents. Some of these anti gun bills have in the past not even had a co-signer and most are dead on arrival and never acted upon in committee, or the committee even holding hearings on them. While there is a need to remain vigilant, one should not take the mere introduction of a bill as an indicator of passage. Hundreds of bills for every kind of special interest are introduced every year and only the rare ones with substantial backing pass.

This is nothing new, these anti-gun bills are introduced every year and they die. The NRA does a good job of killing them off.

[Old and Reliable]

As our POTUS has made his choice for the Supreme Court seat about to be vacated by Mr. Justice Stevens, his second such appointment since he took office, I wonder what the outcome will be. long range for the Second Amendment interpretation.

[Jim Kucaba]

Originally Posted by Bruce Day

Any member of congress can at any time congress is in session introduce a bill about anything that member wants, or is forced to introduce by his/her constituents. Some of these anti gun bills have in the past not even had a co-signer and most are dead on arrival and never acted upon in committee, or the committee even holding hearings on them. While there is a need to remain vigilant, one should not take the mere introduction of a bill as an indicator of passage. Hundreds of bills for every kind of special interest are introduced every year and only the rare ones with substantial backing pass.

This is nothing new, these anti-gun bills are introduced every year and they die. The NRA does a good job of killing them off.

Bruce and others ... I'd like to reinforce what Bruce said previously ... While it is certainly true that the NRA and other pro-second amendment, pro-gun organizations do a good job of getting anti-gun bills killed, just belonging to the NRA and other pro-gun groups is NOT an excuse for pro-second amendment, pro-gun people to sit on their dead ass doing nothing ! ...

There are far too many anti-second amendment, and anti-gun people currently serving in the US House of Representatives and US Senate, and to put the proverbial icing on the cake, President B-HO just nominated a woman to serve on the Supreme Court who wrote that she was "Not sympathetic" to a man claiming his right to keep and bear arms had been violated by police when she was a law-clerk for Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall ...

So it is the absolute duty of every freedom loving, pro-second amendment, pro-gun person in America to continue calling and writing state, local, and federal officials to prevent the Sarah Bradys of the world from getting their anti-gun bills passed behind our backs when nobody's looking or as an amendment to the next Congressional Pay Raise bill that gets passed in the dead of night ...

Sir Winston Churchill Said: "Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy." in 1941 ...

And Thomas Jefferson had it absolutely nailed when he said: "THE PRICE OF FREEDOM IS ETERNAL VIGILANCE." ...

Nuff Said.



Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email: JimKucaba@aol.com

[C Roger Giles]

My remark to this is and old saying "here we go again"

I get tired and bored with this type of scare the gun crowd with someones pipe dream.

We already have a form of gun control, ie non toxic ammo with a price tag that keeps most casual hunters at home. The only ones that still hunt are the hard noses like Destry and I.

Roger

[TARNATION !!!]

Sometimes, pipe dreams are realized............

[M Vollinger]

I took the trouble to actually read the bills to see what the details are.... according to govtrack.us

A man only learns in two ways, one by reading, and the other by association with smarter people. Will Rogers

H.R. 257 – Hold gun owners responsible for crimes committed with their stolen guns.

Also known as H.R.257 -Child Gun Safety and Gun Access Prevention Act of 2007
1/7/2009--
(1) raise the age of handgun eligibility to 21 (currently, 18); and
(2) prohibit persons under age 21 from possessing semiautomatic assault weapons or large capacity ammunition feeding devices, with exceptions. Increases penalties for:
(1) a second or subsequent violation by a juvenile of Brady Act provisions or for a first violation committed after an adjudication of delinquency or after a state or federal conviction for an act that, if committed by an adult, would be a serious violent felony; and
(2) transferring a handgun, ammunition, semiautomatic assault weapon, or large capacity ammunition feeding device to a person who is under age 21, knowing or having reasonable cause to know that such person intended to use it in the commission of a crime of violence


S. 2820 – National registry of all gun buyers.

Also know as S. 2820 12/1/2009 Preserving Records of Terrorist & Criminal Transactions Act of 2009

Amends the federal criminal code to require: (1) the retention for a minimum of 10 years of criminal background check records for known or suspected members of terrorist organizations who attempt to purchase firearms or apply for a state permit to possess, acquire, or carry firearms; and (2) the retention for at least 180 days of other criminal background check records relating to firearms purchases. Repeals certain provisions that require the destruction within 24 hours of identifying information for individuals who legally purchase or possess firearms.

H.R. 2159 gives the Attorney General power to create secret list to “black list” gun owners, prohibiting them from owning/purchasing guns without due process.

Also known as H.R. 2159 Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2009 -
Intro by Peter King R-NY Referred to sub-com. 6/2009
4/29/2009--Introduced. Amends the federal criminal code to grant the Attorney General the authority to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of a federal firearms and explosives license to any individual if the Attorney General:
(1) determines that such individual has been engaged in or has provided material support or resources for terrorist activities; and
(2) has a reasonable belief that such individual may use a firearm or explosive in connection with terrorism. Allows any individual whose firearm or explosives license application has been been denied to bring legal action challenging the denial. Prohibits the sale or distribution of firearms or explosives to any individual whom the Attorney General has determined to be engaged in terrorist activities. Permits the Attorney General to withhold information in firearms and explosives license denial revocation suits if the Attorney General determines that the disclosure of such information would likely compromise national security Authorizes the Attorney General to revoke firearms and explosives licenses and permits held by individuals determined to be engaged in terrorism

I would prefer to focus on Parkers and learning more about them.....