2 bbl sets

[gordon smith]

Is there a rule of thumb about what percent of value a 2nd set of bbls adds to a gun? Either ones that were made when gun was ordered or ones that were made later by Parker or Remington.

[Dean Romig]

Hello Gordon, if they can be documented as original to the gun as it left Parker Bros. IMHO they probably add another 25% - 35% to the value of the gun. If it can be documented that the second set was made for the gun at a later date by Parker. Bros., again IMHO, then maybe they will increase the value by 15% - 20%... maybe a bit more.
It would be difficult, if even possible, to be able to document such a thing from Remington records.

[C grade]

I agree with Dean,especially on the guns that come from Parker with a second barrel. As Austin has documented, they are fairly rare and a lot of two barrel sets have "lost" the second barrel.
David

[ED J, MORGAN]

I have 3 two barrel sets. GH, PH, and a Trojan. All12 ga.

[Dean Romig]

Hello Ed, do they all letter as such?

[C.O.B.]

I have had several two bbl sets a GHE 12 skeet/trap set, GHE 20 and a GHE 16 skt/trap. I know they all lettered with the second set of bbls. To me the second set doesn't add that much as for me I usually use only one set. The 16 has had the trap bbls on it only once in the two years I have had it.

[Austin W Hogan]

I usually stay away from appraisals, as per my "oath of office" but I will offer some guidance here.

About 15 years ago I found a CH two barrel, two gauge, two grade set. I thought that I had the most difficult set to find so I began seeking two barrel set guns. I soon found an interesting GH that had a full pound difference in weight( 30 vs 28) but had precisely the same balance point.

The next was a big surprise; I bought a lifter that appeared to be an early live bird gun from a major dealer. There was no mention of a second set of barrels in the ad or on the phone call. When I opened the box there were two barrel sets of same length and weight.

I paid a premium for a two gauge two barrel DH from an ad in Gun List 10+ years ago.

I found a dandy two barrel set G lifter at Baltimore about 7 years ago.

Altogether I had grade 1, 2GH , 2, 3DH and 4CH two barrel sets. Two were two gauge sets, and two were two grade sets.

The DH two gauge set was the only two barrel set that I paid a premium in price. This premium was associated with the 10 ga barrel, which appearred to never have been mounted or fired. When PGCA research letters became available I found that the 10 gauge barrel was the original; the 12 ga barrel was fitted, and the 10 ga barrel rebrownd about 5 years after the gun was originally delivered.
The serialization shows original two barrel sets but can only show 1 barrel length, grade and gauge. The CH is a two gauge, two grade(B4 D4) set. The serialization showed the D4 length for the B4 barrel.
If I follow the philosphies presented on this forum correctly, most prospective buyers will walk past a a 2 barrel set because it cannot be instantly verified as original. I would be very careful in paying a premium for a two barrel set, as only a small number of collectors will risk purchase of two barrel set that cannot be instantly verified from the serialization.

Best, Austin

[Dean Romig]

I have never seen or heard of a Parker sold as "the price is $XXXXX and that includes a XX% premium because of the second set of barrels. Had this gun only one set of barrels the price would only have been $xxxxx."

I know very knowledgable collectors who have (documented) two-barrel-set Parkers who would not have paid what they did had those guns had only one set of barrels and as I have stated, I would certainly expect to pay a premium for a multiple barrel set both for the versatility of the gun if it is purchased as a shooter and for its rarity if purchased solely as a gun for the collection.

[Opening Day]

Dean, I have to agree with you and the percentage that you quoted, I think that you are in the ballpark with those numbers.

[C.O.B.]

Dean-Bring your check book to Hausmanns. The Hollywood gun letters with two sets of 28 inch vent rib barrels with BTF choked skt in skt out and M/F.
And its a 16ga..extra premium for a small bore