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Unread 11-03-2013, 06:14 PM   #1
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I have no connection to this gun, other than it caught my eye during its first auction, which closed at around $3300 if memory serves. Not sure why its back on the block...in any event, what are the opinions on whether those case colors are original? The more I look at them, the less sure I am. And then there's the matter of the Vulcan barrels on a G grade...

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Unread 11-03-2013, 06:38 PM   #2
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It's difficult to say without having the gun in hand but if I had to guess I would say it's been redone. It's a pre Remington gun and to me the colors just don't look quite right. The cocking crank also appears to have been color case hardened and I don't think I have ever seen one with colors. JMHO for what it's worth.
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The rib is from Vulcan barrels but it has the correct P.S. stamp for Parker Special Steel barrels. And then there is the too visible seam between the rib and the doll's head extension... then there are the frame screws that show just too much wear for the level of remaining case color... then there is the checkering which appears too fine (LPI) for a grade 2... then there's the excessive wear on the trigger guard screw and engraving worn off of the retaining screw... but it appears to be an excellent buy at the $999 starting price.
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It's too bad these guns didn't come with an odometer to tell us what the original miles were.
This one probably had the odometer turned back a little.
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or could it be a Remington era gun, which are known to have been made using less than strict parker bros. era specs?
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The fore end looks more like the Remington, bull nose style, as opposed to the more slender Meriden style. Colors aren't what one would expect from Meriden either, but it might have been worked over in Illion.
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or an old Turnbull restoration.
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Unread 11-04-2013, 09:26 AM   #8
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or could it be a Remington era gun, which are known to have been made using less than strict parker bros. era specs?

I didn't know that.

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At the risk of being a bit too picky..... Brian's picture sure doesn't exhibit the oil on water look that he is describing. Maybe he's describing the gun on the internet link. Of course the GB gun has new case colors. The question is "How did the Vulcan rib get on a set of probably original Parker Special Steel barrels?" The rib replacement is obvious because of the poor fit of the rib to the sub rib. That gun is a real temptation at the present price.
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Check out the KelTec gun in the seller's past auctions. It has sold with no reserve four or five times, been relisted four or five times. How does the KelTec keep returning to the GB site?? How is it that the Parker had 19 bidders up to $3300 and the seller has it back on GB? If the gun were returned by the successful bidder, I would be contacting the second high bidder, but he apparently didn't do that. What is going on here? I have been dealing with GB for a long time, and this is a new one on me. This seller has wonderful feedback, so maybe he has just found a way to save GB fees on multiple identical guns by just hitting the relist button when he sells one of them. My take is that he may have had four or five KelTec .22s and legitimately sold each one.
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