Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
New member, general questions
Unread 11-10-2024, 04:55 PM   #1
Member
Bryan Clarke
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2024
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default New member, general questions

Hi all,

New to the forum - have loved reading all of the helpful info in these threads!

I was just entrusted with a Parker handed down from my grandfather, and was hoping to confirm what I’ve tried to determine by poking around. Pictures included below.

I’ve placed this as a Trojan 12 ga on a size 2 frame, manufactured in 1920. I’ve seen a few people ask about the OV stamp and haven’t seen a definitive answer. Any info appreciated, especially if I’ve misinterpreted.

I shoot regularly - clays and quail and an occasional pheasant tower hunt. Is having lower end Parker like this refurb’d to look more like the day it was made a big faux pas? I don’t care about resale value - guns are to be kept in my book.

Last edited by Bryan Clarke; 11-10-2024 at 05:58 PM..
Bryan Clarke is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-10-2024, 05:12 PM   #2
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,073
Thanks: 36,785
Thanked 34,221 Times in 12,647 Posts

Default

The mean ing of the OV stamp is unknown but we know that it is only stamped on the Trojan models.
Wish we could tell you more.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Forgot the pictures :)
Unread 11-10-2024, 05:31 PM   #3
Member
Bryan Clarke
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2024
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default Forgot the pictures :)

Pictures attached now
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_4227.jpg (535.1 KB, 29 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4223.jpg (537.9 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4222.jpg (543.5 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4220.jpg (516.8 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4221.jpg (533.6 KB, 10 views)
Bryan Clarke is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-12-2024, 02:28 PM   #4
Member
edgarspencer
PGCA Member
 
edgarspencer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,368
Thanks: 3,180
Thanked 12,348 Times in 3,300 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Romig View Post
The mean ing of the OV stamp is unknown but we know that it is only stamped on the Trojan models.
Wish we could tell you more.
.
I have never owned a Trojan, but have looked at many, and I do not recall ever seeing one without the OV stamp. This mark is in the location, both on barrels, and frames, where grade is marked on all other guns, so, while I'm only speculating, I believe this was a Parker Brothers designation for Trojan guns.
Page 246 in TPS makes reference to this.
edgarspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to edgarspencer For Your Post:
Unread 11-10-2024, 07:44 PM   #5
Member
Rick Roemer
PGCA Member
 
Rick Roemer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 375
Thanks: 344
Thanked 499 Times in 166 Posts

Default

In my opinion, if the plan is to keep it in the collection of your own and it belonged to your grandfather- do what you want. Having it professionally restored is an option, leaving alone is also an option. I have guns that don’t look great but I still enjoy carrying and I’ve had a few refurbished -do what you want, it’s nice to have something from a past family member-you can’t buy that. Join the PGCA!
__________________
A Dog, A Gun, and Time enough!

George Bird Evans
Rick Roemer is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Rick Roemer For Your Post:
Unread 11-11-2024, 10:10 AM   #6
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,787
Thanks: 504
Thanked 18,653 Times in 4,779 Posts

Default

The forend wood on the gun is not original. It would have been a splinter originally.
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Brian Dudley For Your Post:
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 11-11-2024, 11:06 AM   #7
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 15,968
Thanks: 6,395
Thanked 9,278 Times in 4,943 Posts

Default

That gun would be a great candidate for a full restoration. It may be an easy restoration that would return most of its cost in added value. Shop around.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-11-2024, 02:03 PM   #8
Member
Mike Poindexter
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 534
Thanks: 598
Thanked 662 Times in 257 Posts

Default

You have a nice early Trojan with the faux dolls head rib extension. However, I respectfully disagree with Murph's assessment above. From what I've seen, and been quoted on similar projects, having the barrels properly refinished would be $4 to $500, having the rest of the metal stripped, cleaned recased and reassembled properly would be another $800 to $1000. Having a new proper fore end made, checkered, fitted and finished another $500, and the buttstock checkering recut and stock refinished with a proper buttplate would be at least $500. So, probably $2500 for a complete restoration from reputable sources. You would be lucky to get $2000 for it as restored IMHO.

That said, it looks like a great shooter as is, especially with your grandfather's provenance. Clean it up gently and use it with appreciation . Just my thoughts.
Mike Poindexter is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Mike Poindexter For Your Post:
Unread 11-11-2024, 02:14 PM   #9
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,073
Thanks: 36,785
Thanked 34,221 Times in 12,647 Posts

Default

I would at least have a proper splinter forend made. That beavertail forend will likely eventually pop the forend lug from the barrels because it allows too much force to be applied to remove the forend and that lug is only soldered on.
A special tool is available for the quick and easy removal of the forend without applying too much force.






.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 11-12-2024, 01:01 PM   #10
Member
Brush Buster
PGCA Member
Second Badge
 
Russ Jackson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,244
Thanks: 3,325
Thanked 3,660 Times in 1,125 Posts

Default

I agree with what Dean said ,with one exception ,I would watch E Bay or advertise here on our site for an original used forend ,should be cheaper than having one made and easy to fit ! With the exception of a few Twist Steel Barreled Trojans, all of the 12 Gauge Trojan Grades were #2 Frames with Extractors so you don't need to worry about getting the ejectors fit etc. ! Again ,just my opinion but the wood is pretty readily available if you spend a little time searching for it ! Enjoy your New Parker !
Russ Jackson is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Russ Jackson For Your Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:27 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.