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The other company that attempted it went bust and a few people were left hung out to dry. The quality was inferrior ant they were heavy and unbalanced.
I don’t remember the name of the company but it’s good that they’re gone. .
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Dean, are you referring to the Simmons Co. in Olathe, KS? I know there was some discussion here of them producing barrels to fit Parkers, but don't recall if any were actually produced and sold.
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07-28-2020, 12:31 PM | #5 | ||||||
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We (some PGCA members) examined the Simmons attempt to manufacture Parker barrels. The initial inspection made clear that their present shop employees could not duplicate the quality of past efforts with Winchester and Krieghoff barrels. The barrels were very poorly made and couldn't be fitted to existing Parkers, regardless of claims to the contrary. The Simmons representative could not have been more unaware of the result of their attempts. Nice guy, though. Our one meeting ended the Simmons project. We heard no more from them. I was very disappointed.
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I only know of Pitty Pat Dugan and myself that received the CSMC 410 barrels. There are likely others, but in the years since I've received mine, Pat and I are the only ones that have surfaced on forums that I've checked into. I will say that the quality of the workmanship rivals the OEM Repro barrels, I think Pat will support that, but they are indeed heavy. This was due to the need to have the breech ends match the 28 gauge frame. There's just no elegant way to transition from 410 tubes to a 28 ga breech diameter while keeping the weight down and having a practical method of forming a water table on the barrels. They chose to go with an aesthetically pleasing taper on the outside, which makes for a heavy barrel set. While they are heavy, the gun is still around 6 1/2 lbs or less and swings nicely as much of the added weight is between the hands. regards Chuck |
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07-28-2020, 12:26 PM | #7 | ||||||
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No, it wasn’t Simmons. Wish I could remember the name....
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07-29-2020, 07:36 AM | #8 | ||||||
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I think they were in Louisiana .
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Jim, the Simmons barrels were unacceptable, nothing to do with matting or engraving cost. The barrels were junk. The company that Dean mentions is not familiar to me. Someone should know who they were. Simmons were the only barrels that I am aware of that were presented to us for approval. Simmons thought they were finished. They were not "finished".
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Production with proper rib matting and engraving(outsourced) was cost prohibitive
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