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the longrange is a 3" the Parker and Super are 2 3/4
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Try Winchester 572. It's new and it's a powder I'm going to try next. Check out the Hodgdon site. You can get good velocities and the PSI are respectable. For the heavy stuff I always use Federal GM hulls and wads. 1 1/4 oz of lead shot 24.7 grains of 572 Federal GM hull Federal S3 wad Federal 209 primer 8000 PSI 1220 FPS This new Winchester powder is strategically designed to do a myriad of jobs. First it has the correct burn rate to create the famous 3 ¼ dram equivalent, 1 ¼ oz, 1330 fps 12 gauge load, originated by Winchester. And, it does it with any brand case! Back Fence competitors and pheasant hunters will be delighted. Now, that is just one application, and it goes on to provide clay target loads superb in 20 gauge and 28 gauge, top field loads in both, and, outstanding field loads for the wonderful 16 gauge. In addition, 572 has a vast number of pistol applications, ranging from the 25 ACP to the 45 ACP, and all popular calibers in between. This is one positively versatile and useful propellant. |
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I would look at using Hodgdon Long Shot powder. Slow burning, low pressure and can produce very high velocities although I would stick with slower speeds. It burns as you mention and like 7625 it provides a louder boom with the same loads using other powders.
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05-07-2017, 07:27 PM | #6 | ||||||
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Thanks Frank- i saw that write up while researching this idea this weekend - i wondered about it
nice shot will add about 1500PSI - so still something the Super and these others can handle please let me know how your tryouts go and i will as well
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Why does Nice Shot increase pressure so much? Is it denser than lead, so that it is heavier for a given volume?
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but the Nice shot site only says ""Nice Shot" has a slightly higher chamber pressure than an equal lead load." i wonder if the figure came from here http://randywakeman.com/Nice_Shot_Re..._Pressures.htm "Nice Shot, at 14-16 Brinell, is no harder than 5% and 6% antimony lead, or the best “magnum” shot. Hodgdon Powder Company evaluated Nice Shot, and suggested that a comfortable area to load in would be subtracting 1500 PSI from their published lead data, although the average difference in pressure was less." and "High-antimony lead runs approx. 11.1 g/cc density. Nice Shot runs about 10.3 g/cc. While lead reloading data is by actual weight, proper shotshell assembly is by dimension. Using a lead charge bar for Nice Shot automatically reduces payload by about 7%, so no pressure issues are plausible. "
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05-07-2017, 08:44 PM | #9 | ||||||
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Rick, if you can find it, 4756 duplicates the old 3 1/4- 1 1/4 Federal live pigeon load.
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oh - I can find it its on the shelf behind the 7625 as a waterfowl load- i am concerned about its reputation for poor cold weather performance
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