No wonder we were afraid of Damascus

[Steve Hodges]

While cleaning up the Man Cave this morning I happened to look closely at some vintage shotgun ammo that I have. Both the Winchester 12 Gauge and the Peters 20 Gauge boxes have warnings posted on the box not to use this ammo in Damascus or Twist Barrels. The Winchester warning even warned that the "reloading of the spent hulls is Prohibited! Good luck enforcing that one.

[charlie cleveland]

I really liked that brand of shells especially the peters....charlie

[Steve Hodges]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

I really liked that brand of shells especially the peters....charlie

Charlie they are nice loads. Both are paper hulls. The 20 gauge loads have a small round sticker on the crimp with the shell length and shot size on it.

[Dylan Rhodes]

Related to this topic, I found it interesting that my 20 gauge 2.5" ultralites from the recent inventory of RST have the note not to use in damascus barrels

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Dylan Rhodes

Related to this topic, I found it interesting that my 20 gauge 2.5" ultralites from the recent inventory of RST have the note not to use in damascus barrels

It is a bit ironic everyone reads #1 and thats usually what gets talked about but #3 is actually what causes the majority of failures in shotgun barrels.

[Dean Romig]

That warning was originally about increasing gun sales but today it’s all about liability, even with RST low pressure stuff.





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[Woodcock survey]

If i recall correctly the warning came about in the 1930's yet smokeless powder had been in use for many years. If so why the lag in the warning of 25 years?

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Daniel Carter

If i recall correctly the warning came about in the 1930's yet smokeless powder had been in use for many years. If so why the lag in the warning of 25 years?

Mostly due to guys reloading shells with equal weight of nitro for black. That is a recipe for disaster even with modern guns. Not every shooter was reloading with smokeless when it first appeared so it did take a few years for the reloaders to catch up with the modern propellants.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Mike Koneski

Mostly due to guys reloading shells with equal weight of nitro for black. That is a recipe for disaster even with modern guns. Not every shooter was reloading with smokeless when it first appeared so it did take a few years for the reloaders to catch up with the modern propellants.

True, but I think fluid steel barrels would have suffered the same catastrophic failures when fired with such loads as did some Damascus barreled guns.





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[Dean Romig]

Many of the shotgun manufacturers owned at least 1 brand of ammo and/or powder manufacturing plants.





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