Question about markings on a lifter

[Milton C Starr]

Im looking at a 10 ga lifter but it doesnt have a frame # on the barrel lug but it is instead marked T.B with a S under it . Any idea what that means ?

[Dean Romig]

Hi-res pictures of the lug and barrel flats please.

It can probably be identified by the order number... but the serial number probably appears elsewhere on the gun.

So I guess your question is why aren’t the barrels stamped with the serial number?





.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Hi-res pictures of the lug and barrel flats please.

It can probably be identified by the order number... but the serial number probably appears elsewhere on the gun.

So I guess your question is why aren’t the barrels stamped with the serial number?





.

Well it seems the gun sold soon as he added the picture of the barrel lug .
https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101362198

I was just curious what the markings mean . Did early Parkers not have a frame size designation ?

[Jay Oliver]

When I first read your post my guess was going to be an early gun. I have some early 10s and 12s that do not have frame size marked on the barrel lug. So yes that was the case with early Lifters.

I looked at the gun, which is a nice early Grade 2 equivalent Parker. I would "guess" a production date 1873 or 1874. The chambers usually measure 2 5/8" on an early 10 gauge lifter like that though they may have be modified at some point.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Jay Oliver

When I first read your post my guess was going to be an early gun. I have some early 10s and 12s that do not have frame size marked on the barrel lug. So yes that was the case with early Lifters.

I looked at the gun, which is a nice early Grade 2 equivalent Parker. I would "guess" a production date 1873 or 1874. The chambers usually measure 2 5/8" on an early 10 gauge lifter like that though they may have be modified at some point.

The breech walls looked thinner than what you see on #3 frames so I was wonder perhaps if those earlier ones was built on smaller frames .

[Jay Oliver]

Milton, I would agree that looks like a 10ga. on a 2 frame(which is a nice configuration). That would have been a nice one. I have noticed in some of the early guns the breach/chamber walls are much thinner on the smaller frame guns(even though there is not a number designation for frame size).

When I bought a relative early 12ga. Lifter(#3492) I thought the same thing on the thickness of the breach/chamber walls. Here is that thread which has some good pictures: http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20301

The early guns(like all Parkers) are a lot of fun!

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Jay Oliver

Milton, I would agree that looks like a 10ga. on a 2 frame(which is a nice configuration). That would have been a nice one. I have noticed in some of the early guns the breach/chamber walls are much thinner on the smaller frame guns(even though there is not a number designation for frame size).

When I bought a relative early 12ga. Lifter(#3492) I thought the same thing on the thickness of the breach/chamber walls. Here is that thread which has some good pictures: http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20301

The early guns(like all Parkers) are a lot of fun!

Theres a couple #2 frame 10 gauges on gunbroker it looks like no one is interested in . Ive always prefered heavier guns myself , I seen a 7lb 10 ga double the other day for sale but cant remember what brand it was .

[Jay Oliver]

I think a "light" 10 is a nice addition to anyone's collection. I shoot a lot of black powder and lighter 10 gauge loads for sporting clays. You essentially have a 10 gauge on a 12 gauge frame. You have the advantage of a better pattern and not much recoil using those target loads. I have also done some hunting with black powder shells with a #2 frame 10 gauge and like that too.

I have a #2 frame 10 gauge lifter that I found some #2 frame 12 gauge barrels for and put together a nice two barrel combination.

I should add in Parkers a #2 frame 10 is usually in the 8-9 pound range. My lifter is 8 1/2 lbs(with 30" barrels) and my top action is just under 9 pounds(32" barrels).

[Dean Romig]

The very earliest lifters often did not have the frame size on the lug.

However, the frame size can be determined by measuring the exact distance between firing pin centers.

Frame sizes are discussed at length in The Parker Story.

I wonder if the subject gun is chambered to take the 10B shell, given the serial number is preceded with a B.



.

[B. Dudley]

1867 huh?

A lot of misinformation in that listing.