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03-10-2010, 07:28 AM | #3 | ||||||
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Provenance
Thanks Dean; you are correct in the observation. But this is really the same as a newly discovered work of a well known artist coming up for sale; what information convinces you that it is genuine? Or, what in the painting makes it more desirable than other work of the same artist?
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04-02-2010, 11:06 AM | #4 | ||||||
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I have good information about how a guy from back east who contacteda certain Tony. to make a copy of the Czar's parker back in the1980's Tony required a deposit of $90,000. When the gun was finished the buyer decided he wanted his money back and not the shotgun. This all ended up in court where the judge decided that "This case sounds like two crooks were out to screw each other" so neither person was favored in the decisison. So folks; I don't believe that this so called recently sold czar's parker has any real merit, especially with a fake being out there. My info from a member of the Ye old conn. gun guild and the american society. I am just relating a factual story to remind all of us that there are lots of money to be made in in faking guns as well as documentation.
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04-02-2010, 02:27 PM | #5 | ||||||
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In my opinion, Tony's "Not the Czar's Parker" will sell for more than the Czar's Parker next time it goes on the block.
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03-10-2010, 08:49 AM | #6 | ||||||
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My vague understanding of provenance is that continuity of documented possession and transfer is key for an item that cannot otherwise be irrefuteably validated.
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03-10-2010, 01:56 PM | #7 | ||||||
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Anybody who pays big bucks for that Buckingham gun with the shakey provenance needs their head examined, but somebody will.......
DLH
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03-10-2010, 02:44 PM | #8 | ||||||
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I agree with Destry, it has shakey provenance and just how long will Julia guarantee that it is the real deal after the sale..... as I know from bitter experience What I was out was nothing (5 K ) compared to what this buyer maybe out You think Julia will cover the cost of the gun six months from now if or when it turns out not to be the real deal or some insurance company comes to claim it..... I would want something in writing from Julia's, a guarantee in writing with a moneyback return for at least a year and that I can "Guarantee" Julia will not give. Sorry I have little trust.
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03-10-2010, 03:02 PM | #9 | ||||||
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Eric,
If I was you, every gunshow or shooting event I attended, I'd put that gun on my table with a big sign giving all the details. My guess is it wouldn't take long for "Mr. Julia" to get back in touch with you saying he'd changed his mind. DLH
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03-10-2010, 03:30 PM | #10 | ||||||
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A year ... ? If I am paying 100K for this gun, I want like 20 years guarantee !!
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