Double or near Double

[Angel Cruz Ortiz]

Last weekend while quail hunting, my boy Nash went on point. I went in to make the flush, the quail took off, I got it with the right bbl. I went to take a step towards the downed quail when a second quail took off. I got it with the left bbls. Is that considered a double of just two singles??

[Autumn Daze]

Angel, My take on the definition of a double is two birds in the air at the same time.....sorry....

[Angel Cruz Ortiz]

That's what I was wondering, if they had to be in the air at the same time. I thought so but...

[6pt-Sika]

I used to laugh at folks when I was younger talking about getting flustered with a LARGE covey flush , well that was until the first time I had an actual big covey flush in front of me (wild birds not pen raised) . Think I missed the first trying to shoot between and then got one with the second barrel .

Since that time it's never bothered me again , but that first big flush got me a little

Two grouse in the air from a solid point can be a little unnerving sometimes . Especially when you don't expect them as close as they happen to be .

[Autumn Daze]

Ya.... like from under your feet...

[Wild Skies]

Our PGCA Doubles Club has a fairly lenient interpretation that two birds dead in the air at the same qualifies for a double compared to that of the Loyal Order of Dedicated Grouse Hunters. Besides being dead in the air at the same time their definition also includes that the birds have to take off at precisely the same instant. I have a good friend who's a member of that organization that shot a double on Ruffed Grouse this past season, two dead in the air at the same time, but one of the birds took off an instant before the other---his double didn't qualify. I like our definition better.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman

Our PGCA Doubles Club has a fairly lenient interpretation that two birds dead in the air at the same qualifies for a double compared to that of the Loyal Order of Dedicated Grouse Hunters. Besides being dead in the air at the same time their definition also includes that the birds have to take off at precisely the same instant. I have a good friend who's a member of that organization that shot a double on Ruffed Grouse this past season, two dead in the air at the same time, but one of the birds took off an instant before the other---his double didn't qualify. I like our definition better.

That's pure sheepdip! There are some things that simply can't be controlled by the shooter. The honor should be bestowed upon the shooter for his skills, not for his good luck for Pete's sake!

[Brush Buster]

Dean ,If I had two Grouse dead in the air at the same time ,that would be just PURE GOOD LUCK !

[Jack Kuzepski]

The only 2 dead birds in the air at the same time I EVER had were clay! (lol)

Jack Kuzepski

[OH Osthaus]

maybe we need color coded double pins

bronze for staggered doubles

silver for true doubles

and gold for scotch doubles (not the liquid kind)

never worried about them myself - a flock of ducks don;t seem to count, you can triple on decoyed duck with a pump or auto.

I have had doubles on woodcock, in all the years, I've had only one absolutely true chance at a double on Ruffed Grouse flushed at exactly the same time , the right was the first bird I killed over that setter's points, I was so intent on marking it down in case he did not retrieve ( no worry, he did that one and every one after it) that the left barrel was more of a salute than a shot at the bird.

might be neat to brag about but outside a flock of waterfowl, or a covey flush of quail (still need to try that) where there are multiple targets, its a matter of luck of the draw as much as shooting skill. I find the vast majority of my upland birds, if paired on the ground, flush as individuals - often the second comes up at the shot.

but - if it matters to you - go for it - it gives you something to shoot for