New 10ga recipe w/ BP-1044wad

[Craig Larter]

Since the SP-10 is no longer available I developed a new load using the available Ballistic Products BP-1044 wad,
10ga Cheddite Hull 2 7/8"
Cheddite 209
18 gr RedDot
BP-1044 plus four .125" 16ga nitro cards in the shot cup
1 1/8oz #7 1/2 lead
6 fold

Average Pressure: 7600psi
Average FPI: 1163

[James L. Martin]

Craig, I am using almost the same load and it shoots great at clays.I drop 19 grains of red dot and insert a 16ga 1/2" fiber wad into the BP1044. Thanks for the fps and psi.info.

[6pt-Sika]

That’s kind of a Charlie load ! He used to say 19 grains with 1 1/8 ounce using an SP-10 . I picked the bushing closest to 19 and it dropped 18.6 and used it with SP-10’s and the Gualandi style . I however used red Mexican beans instead of card spacers .

[Ed Blake]

Craig L: is there a particular reason why you used four card wads rather than a 1/2” cushion wad?

[Craig Larter]

Originally Posted by Ed Blake

Craig L: is there a particular reason why you used four card wads rather than a 1/2” cushion wad?

No it's just what I had 16ga card wads

[J.B. Books]

To those of you using the BP1044 wad, have you had any squib loads? It is reported to be undersized compared to the SP10. One commercial maker of 10ga loads told me he puts a X10X under them for that reason. I found that easy to do with 3.5" loading of bismuth, but in 2 7/8" loadings I stick with the SP10.

[Skybuster]

Originally Posted by Pete Lester

To those of you using the BP1044 wad, have you had any squib loads? It is reported to be undersized compared to the SP10. One commercial maker of 10ga loads told me he puts a X10X under them for that reason. I found that easy to do with 3.5" loading of bismuth, but in 2 7/8" loadings I stick with the SP10.

I'm just getting ready to load for 2 7/8" and emailed Ballistic Products about the same issue. They called me and I talked with one of their reloading/ballistics data reps. I was told that the BP1044 wad is a copy of a European wad (not Gualandi) and they bought the molds and design to make it. They made changes to the plastic used and slight changes to the design. He said the gas seal diameter is the same as the SP10 (I measure .002" smaller on the BP1044). He said they worked with RST on the wad and that they still use it. He said powder migration is just the nature of the beast and really became a concern with clear hulls when people could see the components. With enough vibration you can make it happen. Ballistic Products was very nice and receptive with the concern and he said they stand behind their products with repeated testing and R&D. He also said he is writing an article for the LC Smith Journal on reloading 10 gauge 2 7/8".

[24 grams]

Originally Posted by Pete Lester

To those of you using the BP1044 wad, have you had any squib loads? It is reported to be undersized compared to the SP10. One commercial maker of 10ga loads told me he puts a X10X under them for that reason. I found that easy to do with 3.5" loading of bismuth, but in 2 7/8" loadings I stick with the SP10.

What does the x10x do to pressure?
It sounds like a good option to help fill the 2 7/8" hull for 1 1/8 ounce loads in the BP1044.

[Ed Blake]

I have not had an issue with the BP1044 wad not obturating in the bore of my 10s. I’ve shot them through a Parker (.775) and a Scott (.760). They definitely fit loose(er) in my hulls but they must expand in the bore sufficiently

[Mike of the Mountain]

I’ve used the 1044 wad with no issues.