old gun, new shells

[Clark McCombe]

A novice question:
is it advisable or safe, to use new shells in an old gun, specifically 1 oz steel shot 1165 fps in a 1918 16 ga.
or 1 oz steel 1325 fps in a 1928 12 ga.
Now that I have these Parkers, I'm almost afraid to use them after doing some reading.
My son was looking at a new Beretta. I was trying to talk him out of it, but now Im not so sure...

[Dean Romig]

Don’t use steel shot - there alternatives in the realm of non-tox ammo. And besides, that’s too stiff of a load for those barrels and 100+ year old wood.

Be kind to your old guns. Shop around for appropriate loads. I try to stay below 1175 fps and below 7,000 lbs chamber pressure.

RST makes appropriate loads for your guns and they kill just as well.





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[Stan Hillis]

I was just recently made aware of this offering to those of us with short chambered vintage guns. Looks like a viable option.

Twelve gauge, 2.5", 6100 psi, 1170 fps. Also available in 16 ga. Now, if they'll just offer it in 20 . . . . .

https://claysammo.com/armusa-12-ga-2...free-shipping/

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Stan Hillis

I was just recently made aware of this offering to those of us with short chambered vintage guns. Looks like a viable option.

Twelve gauge, 2.5", 6100 psi, 1170 fps. Also available in 16 ga. Now, if they'll just offer it in 20 . . . . .

https://claysammo.com/armusa-12-ga-2...free-shipping/

I am shooting my way through 30 flats of Armusa in my O/U's and it's great ammo. It's 2 3/4", 1oz #8 1250fps we paid $90 a flat delivered from our distributor who shoots bunker in Binghamton twice a year. I'm going to see if he can get these, they look great.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Stan Hillis

I was just recently made aware of this offering to those of us with short chambered vintage guns. Looks like a viable option.

Twelve gauge, 2.5", 6100 psi, 1170 fps. Also available in 16 ga. Now, if they'll just offer it in 20 . . . . .

https://claysammo.com/armusa-12-ga-2...free-shipping/

They'll be alright if he's looking for hunting loads. All they have right now are #5 and #6. They are out of #7 1/2.

[Drew Hause]

More than you probably want to read Clark, but this might be helpful
https://www.shotgunworld.com/threads...-shoot.366087/

We know the loads that Parker recommended and now have good data as to the pressures those loads generated. It is prudent to use lower recoiling loads in our vintage doubles however.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Drew Hause

We know the loads that Parker recommended and now have good data as to the pressures those loads generated. It is prudent to use lower recoiling loads in our vintage doubles however.

As Drew stated, no need to beat the snot out of those 100 year old wooden stocks.

[William Woods]

Originally Posted by Stan Hillis

I was just recently made aware of this offering to those of us with short chambered vintage guns. Looks like a viable option.

Twelve gauge, 2.5", 6100 psi, 1170 fps. Also available in 16 ga. Now, if they'll just offer it in 20 . . . . .

https://claysammo.com/armusa-12-ga-2...free-shipping/

I have ordered from them and received the 12GA rounds. The 16GA will not be available until January according to the website. I ordered two cases of the 16GA shells. The 16's are only available in 7 1/2 shot size currently.

I have yet to fire any of the rounds I have received from them.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Harry Gietler

SURE BLOWS AWAY RST Prices. Harry

Says the guy who's too cheap to pay $40 a year for an annual PGCA membership.

Clark, as the old expression goes,"Horses For Courses". There are plenty of Bismuth choices for using your Parkers for ducks. You're only going to shoot up a few boxes a year. If using inexpensive ammo is your criteria, buy the Beretta.
I may be at the far end off the spectrum, but I haven't bought a box of shotshells in many years because I load everything with recipes designed for the guns I shoot. It isn't to save a few bucks, it's to be able to shoot all of my Parkers.

[Kevin J. Burke]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

There are plenty of Bismuth choices for using your Parkers for ducks. You're only going to shoot up a few boxes a year.

I agree with Mr. Spencer. If you need to use nontoxic shot through your Parker, Bismuth is the way to go.