Lifter Questions

[TARNATION !!!]

Hi: I'm looking at a lifter with sn given as 22xxx

It is on the net at a gun shop. the person replying does not seem to know for sure what it is and he called it "Parker Arms". The one pic looks like a grade 0 or maybe grade 1 lifter.

Did any other gun makers produce Lifters?
Is there any Meriden Conn markings on barrel ribs or anywhere else?
Is there any fool proof markings that indicate the gun will be a Parker Bros. Meriden Conn made gun??

What is a reasonable price tag if the gun is good (shooter vs collector piece)

Thanks,
Jack ("itis" is telling me I don't have a Lifter)

[Bindlestiff]

I think if you ask what is inscribed on the rib you will know.... it should have this and the type of barrel too.

[Dean Romig]

A lifter gun in that serial number range will always have PARKER BROS. engraved on the lock plates.

Parker Arms doesn't cut it.

[Bill Murphy]

I'm not sure that a 22,000 range Parker would have a rib like the one pictured. Shouldn't it be plain finish with no matting? I would assume, if the gun is a lifter gun, the seller is confused about the "Parker Arms" terminology. It is probably a real Parker Brothers gun.

[TARNATION !!!]

I think it probably is. It looks like the lifter pictures, which is why I was wondering if any other makers built lifter actions. I have had one exchange with the shop and he says he can see Parker Bros but no mention anywhere of Meriden, which has kept me wondering a bit. Much nicer to hold the gun and have a look in person.
Cheers,
Jack

[TARNATION !!!]

Well it is a Parker Bros and it is Meriden Conn Twist, not Damascus as was listed. Wood is said to be good, some CC left, tight, on face, bores clean and bright with some very light pitting present, 32". Overall, it is held out to be a VG gun and a safe shooter with BP. Grade 0 or maybe 1 by the look of the one picture I have seen.
I'm thinking around a 1K$ offer. For those who know these guns, is that reasonable or a bit much or a bit low??
Thanks,
Jack

[Autumn Daze]

Jack,Prices for good lifter guns are rising.If the gun is in the condition you describe I think you would do "OK" at a grand. Remember you are buying the barrels.....

[David Hamilton]

Well Jack, As our bureaucracies become more frenchified and layered the perquisite becomes more common. The lifters are great guns and you will have fun with it. Jent Mitchell has been working up low pressure nitro loads for old guns using Clays powder, as are other members of this forum. I have shot some of them and they are great. Much easier to clean up after than BP. One doesn't get the lovely cloud of blue smoke but then one can then see whether one missed or not. there are low pressure, low velocity loads made by RTS and B&P. B&P makes a 2 5/8" shell that might be the chamber length in your lifter. You did say 12 gauge? Good shooting. David

[TARNATION !!!]

David: 12 gauge it is. Seller sent to my exporting FFL on same day I paid. Credit card deducted following day. FFL has gun and holding until the bureaucracy catches up. I have to register the gun to me sight unseen or Border Services will not release. I have to get an International Import Certificate to send to FFL and to show to border services. Those two items applied for on the day I made the deal. Private enterprise has done it's part in a couple days. Bureaucracy, well I expect it will be at least a month or more to have the two documents I need to get the lifter to its new home. There is still 8 weeks to pheasant season, so I'm still hoping to give the hammers a workout this year.
Cheers,
Jack

[Bob Brown]

Way to go, Jack. Another Parker coming north. Its hard to believe bird season is so close. September 1 for all types up in my area. Time flies.