DROP IN VALUE FOR OPENED CHOKES

[J. A. EARLY]

I know cut barrels are a killer but what percentage would you knock off for opened chokes. Looked at a VH 16 on a 0 frame but the chokes were cylinder (.001) and I.C. (.006). Barrel length is correct from the book. I do not suspect they left the factory this way since the wall thickness on the right was .020 all the way.

Also, the bores were .676 all the way in both barrels, which I thought was quite large for a 16. Opinions welcomed.

[Jim DiSpagno]

Get a letter even if you don't buy it. I was looking at a grade 2 Hammergun that had cyl and I'm choked but original length barrels. Letter stated it was ordered that way. Proved to be a good purchase after all. Jim

[J. A. EARLY]

Originally Posted by Jim DiSpagno

Get a letter even if you don't buy it. I was looking at a grade 2 Hammergun that had cyl and I'm choked but original length barrels. Letter stated it was ordered that way. Proved to be a good purchase after all. Jim

I intend to do that if Chuck is not so busy and the info is available. I only have a 24 hour window to purchase, but it would have been an ideal bird gun so I'm hoping it was ordered that way. If not, it needs a discount. Not 50% as cut barrels would in my opinion, but how much is the question.

[Jim DiSpagno]

20-25% IMHO only because to resell, you want to try to break even

[Bob Jurewicz]

I'd be more concerned about the .676" bore diameter. Normal is .662-.665". Considerable honing there. Value reduction in my opinion is significant, especially with the thin .020" WT.
Bob Jurewicz

[B. Dudley]

Unless a letter says otherwise or the work was done poorly, who says they are opened?

I personally believe that opened chokes dont effect value all that much.

[J. A. EARLY]

The bores are a perfect .676 in both barrels with no choke in the right and the left has choke for four inches. The overbore and cylinder in the right have me concerned.

[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

Unless a letter says otherwise or the work was done poorly, who says they are opened?

I personally believe that opened chokes dont effect value all that much.

I have a really nice GH 16, O frame. It has no choke in the right barrel. The letter confirms it was ordered that way. My thanks to the original owner from the late 19th C.!! Nice to find them as ordered...the way you want them.

[C.O.B.]

I think it depends on the gun. If the chokes were opened on the gun you describe I wouldn't be as concerned as say a 32 inch target gun that was F/F is now opened to something else. With the gun you describe I'd be much more concerned with the bore diameter. There are plenty of VH/VHE 16's available and the O frame isn't always lighter than a #1 frame.

[Bob Jurewicz]

I just measured 2 Parker VH 16 GA O Frames.
.662/.664"
.664/.665"
The other thing about the Cylinder choking is that all guns I have had that lettered as with a Cyl choked barrel showed around .006" of constriction in that barrel.
Bob Jurewicz