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Old 12-06-2009, 02:10 PM   #1
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[QUOTE=Dean Romig;8551]Or has it lain hidden in obscurity all this time because whoever picked it up on the roadside knew who it belonged to and knew himself to be a dishonest coward to have kept Bo-Whoop... ?QUOTE]

Thanks Researcher, I rest my case.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:41 PM   #2
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Its a damn shame. I can only imagine how Mr. Buckingham must have felt when he lost Bo Whoop. That gun must have felt like an extension and piece of him. I am sure that was a terribel feeling that I hope none of us here ever have to feel. It really makes me sad to think about how many years and hunts that gun missed with the person it was made for.
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:17 PM   #3
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It's been in the same place as the Czar's gun and the third Invincible were - squirreled safely away from prying eyes and fumbling hands.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:19 PM   #4
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It's been in the same place as the Czar's gun and the third Invincible were - squirreled safely away from prying eyes and fumbling hands.
Kevin, do you mean to say it has been in the posession of the old widow on Long Island?
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:28 AM   #5
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What does Mr. Buckingham famley say about this? If the gun was lost and everyone at the time was looking for it I think the gun is as good as stolen. For years everyone has looked for the gun and the guy that had new what he had. I agree with Mr. Roman They need to give the gun back.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:56 AM   #6
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I think Bill Jaqua beat Mr. Puglisi by about 15 years when he bought the "Little Persuader" 28 Ga Parker, paying something like $100K. People thought he was crazy, until the transaction ended up in the center column of the WSJ,validating high quality guns as an investment alternative. He resold the gun within a month, if I'm not mistaken
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Old 12-06-2009, 11:06 AM   #7
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Please don,t take this as a knock of Fox guns.They are great guns and if I wasn,t so deep with Parkers the Fox would be my gun of choice. Bo-Whoop is a Fox gun" albiet a very famous one" My logic here is that Fox guns do not historically bring the $ Parkers do. Do you guys think that in this case provenance will grossly outweigh the value of this gun if it was a Fox owned by "Joe Blow"?
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:28 PM   #8
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IMHO:
I think the gun will go for figures close to if not higher than the Czars gun, despite the economy.
Provenance is the key as well as all of the hype surronding this gun regarding its disapperance.

By the way doesnt the gun have made for Nash Buckingham engraved on it.

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Old 12-09-2009, 07:38 PM   #9
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can someone please tell me what load BoWoop was made for
I beleive it was winchester super x #4's does anybody know the speed and oz.
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Hope the weather is "ducky" at Beaver Dam--
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Default Hope the weather is "ducky" at Beaver Dam--

Very interesting indeed. I had read that the F grade 12 Fox presented to Teddy Roosevelt was ordered w/o ejectors, as that was his preference. I also read that he sent a check in payment, and it was returned uncashed by the Fox sales manager-

This raises another ?- Did Nash order and pay for his first "Bo-Whoop", or was it a gift to a famous sportsman from the Fox Gun Co.?? The second Becker Super Fox was ordered by some of Nash's friends in an effort to replace the first gun-

I went to GBE's book "The Best of Nash Buckingham" (as if there could be anything second rate about this Gentleman-Sportsman from a by-gone era)- page 151- Chapter entitled Mr. Buck's Guns--quote: Nash's favorite 3 inch load for the gun (Bo-Whoop) was "an ounce and three eights of 4's coppered, ahead of four drams of powder"--

I have shot a similar load, albiet in a plastic hull and with plastic wadding- before steel and non-toxic became the law of the land, I used the Federal Premium copper plated lead shot loads in most all of my 12 gauge guns- both 2 & 3/4" and 3" length-for my three primary game birds hunted: Ring-necked pheasants, Green-head Mallards and Canada geese- Devastating indeed.

I had at one time a HE 12- it had been 'restocked" apparently by a group of ruptured Chinese gunsmiths out on a hot wine drunk- it weighed almost 11 lbs. with 32" barrels, had the 3" chamber mark and the "Not Guaranteed" stamping- but I could not swear that Mr. Becker was involved in its manufacture. The weight came from the added spacer and pad with a lead plug in the butt- (similar to my 3" Mag M12) and a "beavertail forearm" that was, no doubt, copied from a deceased beaver- UGLY- but the price was right, the splinter forearm was included and a leather case- I couldn't handle such a heavy gun today--but mechanically it was a gem- solid lock up, ejectors perfectly timed, sweet triggers and I dropped a sinful load of Canadas with it--never shot it with steel loads!

Also, I went to foto section of the book between pages 20 and 23- I believe the dog "Chubby" pictured with Nash is a Cocker Spaniel, albiet a good sized one. In years past we had Cockers for house dogs, I doubt there is a more of a "One_Man" breed than a Cocker- "Murphy" followed me around like I had steak bones in my pockets- he was an English Cocker, black and white, and looked like the "smaller brother" to our neighbor's black and white Springer "Clint"!!

I know this is about the Bo-Whoopie question, but another reason I revere both Nash Buckingham and Gene Hill was their love and kind treatment towards dogs. In the GBE "Letters To John Bailey" is detailed a gun brokered deal that "went South" against Nash, and he wrote the brokeree "Next time, you get yourself another boy" Said a lot to me about his integrity!!

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