Philadelphia Arms Company Disassembly

[Alex Dawes]

Good evening folks,

Has anyone ever disassembled a Philly Arms Company Shotgun? It seems that I might need to remove the sears similar to a Parker in order to remove the stock, but I'm not sure. Before I drop the floor plate and do exploratory surgery, I figured someone might know!

The reason I am wanting to remove the stock is to get access to the top lever spring. It is weak. I can probably shoot it as is, but it is solidly left of center.

[Double Lab]

Nice looking PAC gun. Pretty sure that's what you'll have to do to remove the stock but I'm not positive. You might want to ask over on the Fox site.

[B. Dudley]

I have only taken one apart once. And it was a while ago. I am sure the sears have to come out to remove the stock.
Just so you know, some of the bolting parts on these guns are shared with earlier LC Smiths.

[Researcher]

I don't know if any of this may help or not.

Lock Mechanism from 1905 catalogue.jpg

Bolting from 1905 catalogue.jpg

Patent No. 767,557 page 1.jpg

Patent No. 796,119 page 1.jpg

Looks like a C-Grade I haven't previously recorded. If you don't mind, could you post or PM me the specifics -- barrel length, grip style, serial number, etc. Has it been restocked? Generally the C-Grade didn't have checkering on the stock cheeks.

1905 Catalogue Grade C.jpeg

Ad showing C-Grade.jpg

454 06 Left Close.jpg

[Alex Dawes]

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

Looks like a C-Grade I haven't previously recorded. If you don't mind, could you post or PM me the specifics -- barrel length, grip style, serial number, etc. Has it been restocked? Generally the C-Grade didn't have checkering on the stock

Thanks for the diagrams. I’ll have to sit down at my computer and take a look at them.

Serial:214
Barrel Length: 30 inches
Stock is a straight grip that is original but heavily modified. The comb has been cut and spliced and an extension has been added.

[ArtS]

That's an early one. I have had a couple of Fox guns over the years that were left of center. I don't know of anything the spring would have to do with this. The problem is generalluy that the barrel shaped actuator is worn. I have replaced a couple of these and don't remember it being a big problem but they were 20 years ago. Not sure how available they are now.

[Alex Dawes]

Originally Posted by Arthur Shaffer

That's an early one. I have had a couple of Fox guns over the years that were left of center. I don't know of anything the spring would have to do with this. The problem is generalluy that the barrel shaped actuator is worn. I have replaced a couple of these and don't remember it being a big problem but they were 20 years ago. Not sure how available they are now.

Maybe I’ll just through the screws back in, the trigger guard back on, and shoot it. It’s the first Fox I’ve had left of center. It’s still completely on face though

[Bill Murphy]

This is definitely a candidate for a butt transplant. Who is doing those these days? What a nice gun.

[Researcher]

That's an early one.

The earliest Philadelphia Arms Co. guns I've recorded up through serial number 149, (except for 148) had A.H. FOX engraved on the sides of the frames. From serial number 152 on up they just have FOX.

[Keavin Nelson]

Alex,
the sears definitely have to come out. The comment on the bite barrel is correct. Jason Barden is selling parts again, but I don't know how close they would be in size to this early gun, he may know if you contact him.