Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Confused about a Parker gun listed on GB.
Unread 10-28-2025, 08:49 AM   #1
Member
Tennessee Dave
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 296
Thanks: 311
Thanked 232 Times in 117 Posts

Default Confused about a Parker gun listed on GB.

Seller say's it's a B grade, but the action is marked grade 4 and stamped with a B.


https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1135170911

Last edited by David Livesay; 10-28-2025 at 08:50 AM.. Reason: spelling error
David Livesay is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to David Livesay For Your Post:
Unread 10-28-2025, 09:07 AM   #2
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 17,072
Thanks: 7,095
Thanked 10,559 Times in 5,548 Posts

Default

A PGCA letter may give more information, but this seller has always ignored my requests that he provide a letter. This is a two barrel set, Titanic barrels, grade 4. Maybe the Damascus barrels mentioned by the seller were the second set, which would be a rare combination. I have no explanation for the water table markings.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bill Murphy For Your Post:
Unread 10-28-2025, 09:14 AM   #3
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 17,072
Thanks: 7,095
Thanked 10,559 Times in 5,548 Posts

Default

The gun in the gunbroker ad doesn't seem to have a bead around the breech balls. I think a B grade would have the bead. Grades in the Serialization Book are determined by the price mentioned in the order. The order book doesn't neccesarily mention a grade, often only a price. The SB may be right or wrong in calling it a "4".
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-28-2025, 10:35 AM   #4
Member
Randy Roberts
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Randy G Roberts's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,337
Thanks: 5,231
Thanked 6,937 Times in 2,188 Posts

Default

I would guess that the seller called it a B as the water table stamping afforded him the luxury of an option (B or C) so he elected to call it the higher grade. Lacking the hand filed rib extension and having only 1 dog in the motif it would appear that this is a C.
Randy G Roberts is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Randy G Roberts For Your Post:
Unread 10-28-2025, 11:20 AM   #5
Member
edgarspencer
PGCA Member
 
edgarspencer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,801
Thanks: 3,474
Thanked 13,921 Times in 3,648 Posts

Default

It appears to be a put-together gun. The receiver is a C grade (Marked C, Single dog, in the serialization book as TI4), the butt stock is a B grade, but with a dogs head butt plate. The barrels are not Titanic, but Vulcan. A letter may explain some of this, or not.
edgarspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to edgarspencer For Your Post:
Unread 10-28-2025, 11:38 AM   #6
Member
Jim DiSpagno
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,964
Thanks: 6
Thanked 2,970 Times in 868 Posts

Default

I used to own this gun. It originally was a two barrel set, one being 28" titanic the other was 30" Damascus. Both barrels butchered to 20" inches with the Damascus bbl having 28 gauge briley tubes. It was ordered with a dish head np as per letter. Wood was original to the gun and I fitted Vulcan black to to make it usable
Jim DiSpagno is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Jim DiSpagno For Your Post:
Unread 10-28-2025, 12:46 PM   #7
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 17,072
Thanks: 7,095
Thanked 10,559 Times in 5,548 Posts

Default

Sorry, Jim, I'm a little light on the "dish head np". Please explain. Do you still have the letter? It has to be interesting, a two barrel set with one Titanic and one Damascus. Edgar, the gun is not marked C. It is marked B with a #4 mark.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-28-2025, 12:52 PM   #8
Member
Jim DiSpagno
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,964
Thanks: 6
Thanked 2,970 Times in 868 Posts

Default

Bill, spell correct wen coocoo it's a DHBP
Jim DiSpagno is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-28-2025, 12:53 PM   #9
Member
Jim DiSpagno
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,964
Thanks: 6
Thanked 2,970 Times in 868 Posts

Default

Gave the letter to Mike Jensen when he bought i
Jim DiSpagno is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Jim DiSpagno For Your Post:
Unread 10-28-2025, 01:07 PM   #10
Member
edgarspencer
PGCA Member
 
edgarspencer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,801
Thanks: 3,474
Thanked 13,921 Times in 3,648 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Murphy View Post
Edgar, the gun is not marked C. It is marked B with a #4 mark.
Yes, Bill. I never said it was marked C. I can plainly see it is not marked "C", but it is marked 4. Given all receiver attributes of a B missing (Beaded breach ball, TWO dogs) Of the B and the 4, which would you guess is incorrect stamping? Wearing a B Stock does not make it a B.
Am I the only one who sees the Left barrel Very Off-Face
edgarspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to edgarspencer For Your Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:34 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2026, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.