8 gauge

[charlie cleveland]

i was having dinner at a restraunt yesterday and a old friend came in and sat at my table and it was not long before we had a fine discuscion going aboutfirearms..my friend is not a shotgun person and mostly we talked about mauser rifles and swedish 6.5 s he was customizing one..finally i said do you shoot shotguns any he said very little..i told him i shot quite a lot especially the old 8 ga...he said that thing must kick like a mule and i told him it was much more pleasant to shoot than most 3 1/2 in 12 ga s...then he said why in the world would any body want such a large shotgun for..i replied him being a rifle guy why would anyone want anything bigger than the 22 rimfire.. charlie

[6pt-Sika]

Well sir I'm a rifle and shotgun person !

I likes my 10 gauge shotguns as well as the 16's and I want an 8 gauge or several in the worst way !

I likes my rifles be it a 204 Ruger or my 416 REM MAG or 444 levergun !

I think it's safe to say I like most EVERYTHING !

I can't think of a "quality made" rifle or shotgun I truely DISLIKE !

[wayne goerres]

I think it would be pretty hard for any of us to turn down any firearm.

[Researcher]

For nearly 100 years we have gotten along just fine with six shotgun sizes -- 10-, 12-, 16-, 20- and 28-gauges and .410-bore. Probably all we really need is the 10-, 16- and 28-gauges.

By 100 years ago we really had all the centerfire rifle cartridges we have any use for. Everything we've gotten since then is just manufacturers trying to sell newguns. My choice of six centerfire rifle cartridges would be the .22 WCF which morphed into the .22 Hornet, the .22 Savage High Power, the 7x57mm Mauser, the .30 govt. 06, the .375 H&H, and some good lever action and autoloader cartridge like the .300 Savage, though it didn't come along until 1920. Guess I'm discounting those rimmed cartridges for those 19th century, tubular magazine, Winchesters and Marlins!!

[ed good]

the advent of high quality, high power optics necessitated the need for ultra accurate rifle cartridges...such as the .222 Remington. when everything is just right, one can actually shoot five shots into one hole at 100 yards!

[Bill Murphy]

I'm not much of a rifle guy, so I have not had many one holers that stayed that way over a period of years. One is a pre Remington .22 Varminter on a #6 FN Mauser single shot action. Another is an early Ruger Model 77 in 7MM Remington Magnum. Varminter groups I have in my files are as small as .025 inches at 100 yards. The Ruger targets have been superimposed over each other since the seventies and the master 100 yard target is still just about an inch. The Redfield 4X scope has never been adjusted. I think I could get along with these two rifles and my M2 Springfield .22 Sporter that will also put them in under an inch if I use the Wolf Match Target ammunition that it likes.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by ed good

the advent of high quality, high power optics necessitated the need for ultra accurate rifle cartridges...such as the .222 Remington. when everything is just right, one can actually shoot five shots into one hole at 100 yards!

I've shot ALOT of targets from the bench and only twice have I shot groups less then a tenth of an inch (meaning the size of the group after subtracting the bullet diameter). And the second time I did it I was shooting a heavy barreled 222 REM . It was a factory rifle as a matter of fact although I had the trigger pull down to less then a pound .

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by wayne goerres

I think it would be pretty hard for any of us to turn down any firearm.

I'd have no problem turnng down one of those Urban throw away Hi Point pistols . Think they have a MSRP of about $140

[Bill Murphy]

Since I didn't get any reaction to my last post, I won't tell you about the 1.97" 600 yard target I saw this morning. Yes, it was a Parker guy who shot it. Obviously, he has interests in shooting beyond Parkers. Maybe a reread of the "target" would be in order.

[ed good]

bill: extraordinary! he must have been shooting an a1 special.