Shipping an early 1890s Parker Shotgun?

[Jim McKee]

Can this type of shotgun be legally shipped to a buyer in NY &/or MA without going through an FFL dealer in that state?
Shotgun made before 1896.
Thanks!

[Craig Larter]

In NY any shotgun including antiques, modern and muzzle loaders must be shipped to a 01 FFL. All require a background check.

[John Allen]

Anything built 1898 or earlier is classified as an antique and can be shipped direct according to ATF regulations. It is always best to verify that the shipping company or post office will accept the shipment from a non FFL holder. UPS and Fed Ex will not. The post office should,but in Nashville I have 3 post offices that accept guns and one that refuses to.

[Bob Jurewicz]

Originally Posted by Craig Larter

In NY any shotgun including antiques, modern and muzzle loaders must be shipped to a 01 FFL. All require a background check.

Craig,
I am of the belief that the statue to which you refer states "FFL" not "01
FFL".
I have been trying to locate the complete text of this recent NY Law in my references but have not yet located.
This is what I have found in a SCOPE communication:
"The Act requires that a prospective firearm transferor and transferee process the sale via an FFL, but "does not mandate that FFLs play this processing role." An FFL, who does elect to provide the service, may not charge the parties more than $10 per transaction."
Bob Jurewicz

[Craig Larter]

Originally Posted by John Allen

Anything built 1898 or earlier is classified as an antique and can be shipped direct according to ATF regulations. It is always best to verify that the shipping company or post office will accept the shipment from a non FFL holder. UPS and Fed Ex will not. The post office should,but in Nashville I have 3 post offices that accept guns and one that refuses to.

This is not the case in NY. Antiques must go to an FFL and the buyer must go through the state background check. All background checks for all gun and ammo must go through the state background check system.

[Craig Larter]

Originally Posted by Bob Jurewicz

Craig,
I am of the belief that the statue to which you refer states "FFL" not "01
FFL".
I have been trying to locate the complete text of this recent NY Law in my references but have not yet located.
This is what I have found in a SCOPE communication:
"The Act requires that a prospective firearm transferor and transferee process the sale via an FFL, but "does not mandate that FFLs play this processing role." An FFL, who does elect to provide the service, may not charge the parties more than $10 per transaction."
Bob Jurewicz

Bob it is my understanding that a C&R 03 FFL is useless in NY for shipments originating out of NY since a C&R can't do a state background check. The only time a NY resident can use a C&R 03 is if your out of state and complete the transaction in person out of NYS.
Isn't an 01 FFL the only FFL that can do background checks??

[Steve Hodges]

Originally Posted by Craig Larter

In NY any shotgun including antiques, modern and muzzle loaders must be shipped to a 01 FFL. All require a background check.

Craig, so does this mean that in the State of New York, you cannot order a Muzzleloader rifle from say Bass Pro and have it delivered directly to your home?

[Craig Larter]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hodges

Craig, so does this mean that in the State of New York, you cannot order a Muzzleloader rifle from say Bass Pro and have it delivered directly to your home?

No even ML's require a state background check by an FFL in NY and can not be shipped directly to your home. NYS is so anti gun I just shake my head. Our legislature is now trying to enact a 10 day waiting period, required liability insurance for gun owners, and a ban on 50 caliber rifles and ammunition.

You can't even purchase a Ruger .22 auto without a NYS Pistol permit that takes about one year to obtain. Add to that safe storage and transportation regs. The people in power hate the 2nd amendment and guns of all types plus they have liberal judges that uphold all this. It's all just crazy!!

I'm checking out real-estate in South Carolina.

[B. Dudley]

Just ship it. You are ok Federally. Just get a copy of a photo ID.

[Steve Hodges]

Originally Posted by Craig Larter

No even ML's require a state background check by an FFL in NY and can not be shipped directly to your home. NYS is so anti gun I just shake my head. Our legislature is now trying to enact a 10 day waiting period, required liability insurance for gun owners, and a ban on 50 caliber rifles and ammunition.

You can't even purchase a Ruger .22 auto without a NYS Pistol permit that takes about one year to obtain. Add to that safe storage and transportation regs. The people in power hate the 2nd amendment and guns of all types plus they have liberal judges that uphold all this. It's all just crazy!!

I'm checking out real-estate in South Carolina.

Craig, other than the warm weather, NH is a great option to live in. No sales or income tax, very liberal gun laws, no permit for concealed carry. And just rated the best state to retire to.