no safety

eddie gray · 03-21-2011, 04:18 PM

are parkers without a safety a trap gun or a pigeon gun
tks eddie

Bill Murphy · 03-21-2011, 04:52 PM

In my experience, it is either, both, or neither. The original order may tell you or the era of manufacture may be a clue also. The configuration of the gun is another clue.

Bindlestiff · 03-21-2011, 05:04 PM

I know that some British guns are recognized as "Pigeon guns" and a characteristic of them is the lack of a safety. But, I believe that Parker's "Pigeon gun" was a marketing term and not a type of gun. The rib of early AAH(E)'s were engraved Pigeon but all else is the same as what you would expect on any Parker (safety included). I have looked at early Parker paper and the AAH was listed as a Pigeon Gun but it didn't call out a specific configuration. At that time, they would have been the top grade Parker available.

I suspect that advertising term was dropped around 1907 when the A1S was introduced.

eddie gray · 03-21-2011, 05:48 PM

tks guys

Researcher · 03-21-2011, 06:16 PM

Another no-safety gun we run into from time to time is a short barrel open-bored smallbore, that was made as a plantation Quail gun. Carried empty in the saddle scabbard, and only loaded when the shooter dismounts and walks in for the flush.

Double Play · 03-22-2011, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

Another no-safety gun we run into from time to time is a short barrel open-bored smallbore, that was made as a plantation Quail gun. Carried empty in the saddle scabbard, and only loaded when the shooter dismounts and walks in for the flush.

Dave a perfect example of that would be the no safety DH, 26" 28 gage shown below. This was a $100.00 gun in 1902 that according to the PGCA letter was discounted to $40.00.

Dale Zywina · 03-29-2011, 04:52 AM

Yah I also wonder as my 1911 DHE 12ga 30" barreled gun straight stock, is very heavy, I think this was ordered as a Pigeon or a Goose gun for Western Canada! Wish I knew the true story on this one!Dale Z in Canada

John Rutledge · 03-29-2011, 06:42 AM

Thanks for the discussion. My 32" 1913 DHE has no safety and came froim the factory that way. It also has double front ivory beads which I have never understood. I have had one gunsmith tell me that some people believe a safety only leads to a false sense of comfort around the gun. I do not believe that one.....I would feel irresponsible if I took it into the field with other hunters.

JR

ch · 03-29-2011, 07:58 AM

Larry,
My oh my that is a neet combo!!!! How about a picture of the box. You own the perfect shotgun in my opinion. ch

Double Play · 03-29-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by calvin humburg

Larry,
My oh my that is a neet combo!!!! How about a picture of the box. You own the perfect shotgun in my opinion. ch

Calvin,
And here I thought you were strictly a big bore kind of guy. That was a neat little gun but it currently resides in someone else's safe. My lack of shooting ability requires I launch more pellet's then that little pea shooter could handle.

What would you like a picture of the shell box?