Opinions On Engraving

Dean Weber · 09-25-2020, 06:48 PM

I must admit I am fairly terrible at determining "who the engraver was". But I thought for fun and my education, I would put up a few D grade examples for comments. I have studied TPS and posts here on the forum and I am just guessing. I am sure that is what makes it fun. I understand there is likely no definitive evidence. I will also post Dean Romig's reference guide. What are your guesses?

Subject 1- Pics 1&2 - 1917 (ser 175xxx) DHE 20 ga, 26 inch, 2 1/2 chamber, 0 frame
Subject 2 - Pics 3&4 - 1924 (ser 208xxx) DHE 12 ga, 30 inch, 2 5/8 chamber, 1.5 frame
Subject 3 - Pics 5&6 - Rem (ser 239xxx) DHE 16 ga, 30 inch, 2 3/4 chamber, 1 frame
Subject 4 - Pics 6&7 - Rem (ser 240xxx) DHE 16 ga, 26 inch vent, 2 3/4 chamber, 1 frame

#1

#2

#3

#4

Kerilynn Viccione · 09-25-2020, 07:14 PM

I just want to say that it is because of posts like this that my family will be neglected for an unspecified period of time this weekend- that's on you Mr. Weber!

These are amazing, as is the prompt-
Kerilynn

Dean Weber · 09-25-2020, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerilynn Viccione

I just want to say that it is because of posts like this that my family will be neglected for an unspecified period of time this weekend- that's on you Mr. Weber!

These are amazing, as is the prompt-
Kerilynn

All in the name of some fun.......dsw

Reggie B · 09-25-2020, 07:40 PM

Beautiful examples! Very nice !

Randy Roberts · 09-25-2020, 08:30 PM

Very nice examples Dean. Very good photography also by the way. Personally I like subject number 3. The engraving is a little more sparse and not as busy as the typical D grade which makes the dogs stand out to my eye. I think the dogs on subject number 3 are much more lifelike than the other guns. According to the table one would expect that was a Runge engraved gun. Very very nice. Thanks for posting. I'm certain we would enjoy hearing more about these beautiful guns. Yep that's a hint.

Dean Weber · 09-27-2020, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy G Roberts

Very nice examples Dean. Very good photography also by the way. Personally I like subject number 3. The engraving is a little more sparse and not as busy as the typical D grade which makes the dogs stand out to my eye. I think the dogs on subject number 3 are much more lifelike than the other guns. According to the table one would expect that was a Runge engraved gun. Very very nice. Thanks for posting. I'm certain we would enjoy hearing more about these beautiful guns. Yep that's a hint.

Randy, I added a little more detail to my original post......I know how to take a hint....dsw

Randy Roberts · 09-27-2020, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Weber

Randy, I added a little more detail to my original post......I know how to take a hint....dsw

Thanks for the additional info Dean. That makes you very coachable.

Nice guns for sure.

Dean Romig · 09-25-2020, 08:55 PM

I definitely believe #3 was engraved by Runge and I believe #2 is the work of Frederick Anschutz ( we don’t see that engraving style after 1930 - the year Anschutz died) and I believe #1 is the work of William Gough.

#4 has me stumped. I’ve seen that engraving before and we even see it’s replicaton on a small number of Repros too. It was engraved during Runge’s tenure as chief engraver for Remington but it is not Runge’s work. Probably done by a very accomplished engraver working under Runge. Possibly Charles Forest...?

That’s just my take guys...

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Dean Weber · 09-25-2020, 10:08 PM

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Dean Weber · 09-25-2020, 10:10 PM

Hey Dean! Thanks for commenting. I know you have taken great interest in this subject. #1 is a 1917 gun. Although I would like to think it is a W.Gough engraving, it is later than records would indicate he was engraving. 6 years seems like a long time for a left over part or something of that nature.

I agree with you on 2/3.

#4 is something I have not seen stylistic similarities of previously. I also think 4 is someone accomplished based upon the floor plate.