Prince of Wales (POW) Grip

[Dean Romig]

I don't know who's gun this is, I copied it to my files from somewhere on the Internet.

In my opinion, this is the closest I have seen to a true POW grip on a Parker shotgun. Note the length and very gradual or shallow radius of the curve of the grip. A bit less than what we more often see in a "round knob grip" that we see in research letters - often described in other research letters as a 'pistol grip' as opposed to a 'capped pistol grip'.

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[Garth Gustafson]

Remington gun Dean?

[Dean Romig]

I don't know for certain Garth, but judging by the figure of the wood (on a VH) and the color of the wood (presuming it is the original non-refinished wood) my guess is that it is very likely to be a Remington era gun.





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[Milton C Starr]

Thats interesting ! I wonder if the one who requested a POW style grip perhaps owned English guns beforehand and wanted to carry over the POW grip to their Parkers ? Either way its neat to see .

[edgarspencer]

In my opinion, which Dean will, no doubt disagree with, ALL ball grips, pistol grips (not capped), and half-pistol grips, without regard to the hair-splitting nuances of shape, differ from Prince Of Wales grips ONLY in terminology. The English called them POW Grips, we called everything but.

[Dean Romig]

So Edgar.... what you're saying is that regardless of what we (the Brits as well as the Americans) call them, they are otherwise all alike in design, contour and shape? If you answer "Yes" then you're right, I will disagree.
I know you spent many years in the British Isles, therefor are more qualified to make that determination but yes, I have a different opinion.





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[edgarspencer]

Wow, it took you 12 minutes to jump on the keyboard? You're slipping, as evidenced by the fact you didn't read what I said about the shape.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

In my opinion, which Dean will, no doubt disagree with, ALL ball grips, pistol grips (not capped), and half-pistol grips, without regard to the hair-splitting nuances of shape, differ from Prince Of Wales grips ONLY in terminology. The English called them POW Grips, we called everything but.

From the pictures ive been looking at the American half grips , the grip area is longer than the POWs but they do similar . Maybe Americans just have bigger hands than our English cousins ?

I dont have a preference or bias towards or against either , I think the stubby POW looks better on some guns and the American half grip looks more fitting on others .

[Dean Romig]

But how can we possibly "disregard the hair-splitting nuances of shape" and still be able to define that which we are observing?





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[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

So Edgar.... what you're saying

No, I am Not.
Prior to Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David, AKA The Prince of Wales, who knows what the British referred to the shape of the stock as. It was Bertie's preferred stock and that's when the term was first coined. In the eyes of the British, regardless how we further broke it down, anything that was neither capped, or straight, was a POW grip.
It may or may not be correct, but neither is our slang of calling every Straight Stock an 'English Stock' correct.

When they asked me in high school if I wanted to take French, Spanish, or German, I should have asked if they taught 'Romig'.